In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Derbyshire is not small so 2% means 7,500 missing out, how lucky do you feel and can you make your case to go to superfast more than someone in a village of 50 homes, where the best they can get is 1 Mbps.

The end of 2018 is over three years away, so its pay now or wait and see.

No I can't make a case for it over people in that situation. So hypothetically, how would network rearrangement work?

They would do a rough quote from the office paper records, then sound out a surveyor if that has not frightened you off, and then produce a more accurate quote after surveying the actual street situation.

Might be lucky and you may share a suitable DP with others on another cabinet, or you line may need 10m of digging to connect to the nearby cabinet i.e. the situation varies greatly.

Is the initial quote provided free of charge?

No idea

Ok no worries. One last question before I drive you crazy, can I stipulate which cab I want to be connected to or is it entirely at the descretion of BTO?

In reply to a post by Bladesman:

Would DLM ever turn interleaving back off?

Yes, frequently.

**In the sense that you wouldn't pay the same price as your neighbour to receive half as many tv stations or half the quantity of gas. Anyway, I am really not trying to blame anyone here, I merely raised the thread, to see if anyone could help me with my connection. BT and Sky both gave me an estimate of 14-20 on my line, 11 is obviously a bit under that.**

I don't know whether this is of any help but we live in a small Lincolnshire village, moved from a small village near Buckingham last September. Our ADSL2 connection was dire at our old house, lucky if we got 3mb download but no FTTC because of distance over 6km! Here, out in the sticks, we have a septic tank, no mains drainage, overhead phone cables and electricity cables not far from each other, no gas but oil central heating (yep oil is much cheaper at the moment luckily) and I wouldn't be anywhere else! Love it! When we moved here we had a 6mb download speed on ADSL Max, there is no ADSL2 or 2+ or whatever it's called and there is no likelihood of it either, and by chance I checked to see whether we could get FTTC and lo and behold, surprisingly yes! (Can get FTTP to but too expensive). We're with Zen and when we checked with them they reckoned the maximum we could get was 9mb clean. Cabinet is next to exchange but when we checked distance from exchange and cabinet, they differed. Exchange 2.5km and Cabinet 1.34km and you can follow the poles down the road from the exchange to the pole on our next door neighbour's property which is where the line comes into our house.

We were lucky enough to get an Openreach Engineer out after the bungled FTTC install by Kellys. He went up in the loft and removed all extensions, we didn't need them, and extended the cable to the outside of our bungalow and through the front room. With a lot of help and advice from people on this forum, I bought a Huawei modem to replace the ECI one given to us on installation. With the ECI modem we managed to sync at 17mb but with the Huawei modem we now sync at 21.8mb, downloading at 20.6mb and uploading at just under 1mb which is the maximum I think we can get but we are very happy with that. Whether we have aluminium in the cables or not I don't know. A couple of days after we installed the Huawei modem G.inp kicked in and that's when our sync speed went up to 21.8mb (which is in line with what the Openreach chap reckoned we would get when he used his equipment). To date the connection has been up nearly 18 days so appears to be pretty stable.

Noticed that your attenuation is 34.6 (if I have read your stats correctly), ours is 33.5, very similar. I would have thought your speeds should be better than what you are getting and would suggest you raise a query with your ISP especially as it appears to be below minimum speeds they stated.

Have wittered on a bit sorry! Regards, Marie.

Thanks very much Marie I appreciate your info and advice. I shall be speaking with my isp soon but at the moment they advise to wait 10 days for DLM

Edited by deleted (Fri 11-Sep-15 12:14:22)

Could you post your line stats Marie if possible please so I can compare?

Got the stats up on laptop. How do I get it to print? Do I have to copy it info into something else? How do I copy it? Doh!

Forget the above, done it. Just too early in the morning for me!!! Hope this helps.


BusyBox v1.9.1 (2014-01-21 16:44:38 CST) built-in shell (ash)

Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 1149 Kbps, Downstream rate = 21672 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 1149 Kbps, Downstream rate = 21363 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile: Profile 17a
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 6.4 6.3
Attn(dB): 33.4 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 11.3 10.5
VDSL2 framing
Bearer 0
MSGc: -6 26
B: 243 31
M: 1 1
T: 0 53
R: 10 0
S: 0.3637 0.8707
L: 5587 294
D: 8 1
I: 254 32
N: 254 32
Q: 8 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 16 0
TxQueue: 8 0
G.INP Framing: 18 0
G.INP lookback: 8 0
RRC bits: 0 24
Bearer 1
MSGc: 90 -6
B: 0 0
M: 2 0
T: 2 0
R: 16 0
S: 10.6667 0.0000
L: 24 0
D: 1 0
I: 32 0
N: 32 0
Q: 0 0
V: 0 0
RxQueue: 0 0
TxQueue: 0 0
G.INP Framing: 0 0
G.INP lookback: 0 0
RRC bits: 0 0
Counters
Bearer 0
OHF: 0 687216
OHFErr: 173 3199
RS: 4111294744 371953
RSCorr: 1478873 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0
Bearer 1
OHF: 96586645 0
OHFErr: 0 0
RS: 579519502 0
RSCorr: 1862 0
RSUnCorr: 0 0

Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx: 114426 0
rtx_c: 48521 0
rtx_uc: 510 0

G.INP Counters
LEFTRS: 2084 0
minEFTR: 21370 0
errFreeBits: 504827165 0

Bearer 0
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 3604609843 0
Data Cells: 4130848099 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

Bearer 1
HEC: 0 0
OCD: 0 0
LCD: 0 0
Total Cells: 0 0
Data Cells: 0 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 110 2180
SES: 0 0
UAS: 20 20
AS: 1551431

Bearer 0
INP: 43.00 0.00
INPRein: 0.00 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 0.00 11.58
OR: 0.01 22.10
AgR: 21384.62 1171.42

Bearer 1
INP: 2.50 0.00
INPRein: 2.50 0.00
delay: 0 0
PER: 16.06 0.01
OR: 47.81 0.01
AgR: 47.81 0.01

Bitswap: 1054751/1054849 7/7

Edited by deleted (Sat 12-Sep-15 10:28:21)