So your saying that G.INP probably does exist but theres no official statement to say it is.

So why have you been arguing that its not capable all morning?

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

So your saying that G.INP probably does exist but theres no official statement to say it is.

No

So why have you been arguing that its not capable all morning?

Because it isn't.

Your proof is?

I've seen it active... and someone else seems to agree that its active.

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

I've seen it active..

You've seen it active on a HH5A

..and someone else seems to agree that its active.

And someone else says the ECI modems "would have", not "have"

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

all modems in circuit would have been flashed by BTOR already.

The ECI modem is not the HH5A.

Edited by deleted (Sat 31-Oct-15 14:20:34)

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

..and someone else seems to agree that its active.

And someone else says the ECI modems "would have", not "have"

Actually...

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

The ECI modem does support G.INP

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

The ECI modem is not the HH5A.

The HH5a and ECI both have the same chipset.... both have been updated (if connected at right times)

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

all modems in circuit would have been flashed by BTOR already.

... to work with G.INP on DOWNSTREAM ONLY... however it did take BT a while longer to release the update for HH5a...

Specially ones sent out to customers after the the update was first seeded as they where still using previous versions of firmware (like I believe your's is)

I've seen it on my Huawei HG612 and my HH5B but not on my HH5A or my ECI.

Just passing on my experience without having to rely on my neighbour or someone high-up at Openreach

fair enough, I had guessed as much but whats saying the firmware on both HH%a and ECI are up to date.... AFAIK the ECI modems not connected during the rollout will not have been updated correctly and the HH5a as I mentioned also requires firmware to be pushed to it and doesn't seem to do automatic updates.

So when my neighbour had G.INP first enabled on is HH5a he had to wait for the firmware update, then that loaded on and he gained back his normal speed plus another 8-9Mb/s... however this hub later stopped working and a replacement was sent which has old firmware so he saw the loss in speed and rise in latency again for around 5 weeks and then the hub was updated and back to G.INP speeds....

By the sounds of things you have mainly been using a HG612 meaning your VRX chip based equipment probably hasn't been connected to a line long enough to get the new firmwares.

Also the TP-Link W9980 runs the same chipset as the ECI Modem and HH5a and they fixed the G.INP (Downstream) issue with an update, so theres a pattern here.

Anyway, I'm not discussing it anymore as there is no hard evidence to prove either parties theory.

Am I right in thinking most, if not all, ECI cabinets still don't have it?

To my knowledge yes you are correct, haven't looked recently though!

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

when my neighbour had G.INP first enabled on is HH5a he had to wait for the firmware update, then that loaded on and he gained back his normal speed plus another 8-9Mb/s... however this hub later stopped working and a replacement was sent which has old firmware so he saw the loss in speed and rise in latency again for around 5 weeks and then the hub was updated and back to G.INP speeds....

Interesting, but only speculation and anecdotal. The VRX268-based HH5a - with stock firmware - does not provide detailed line characteristics; at least not via its standard web interface. Consequently, with the HH5a, it's impossible to say whether G.INP (ReTX G.998.4) is active on the line, or not.

Notably, those who've replaced the Openreach firmware on their VRX268-based ECI B-FOCuS /r modems - replacing it with OpenWRT plus an updated DSP BLOB said to support G.INP - have yet to confirm that G.INP is now active on their lines. Of course only those on Huawei DSLAMs would be able to test that out any way.

Maybe that sudden boost in speed on your neighbour's line - which he attributed to G.INP being activated on his HH5a - was just the spontaneous remission of a line fault? The fact that the sync speed appeared to rise and fall so dramatically, could simply indicate an intermittent line fault. Nothing to do with G.INP.

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Edited by deleted (Sat 31-Oct-15 15:59:33)