In reply to a post by adslmax:

Yeah will going thinkbroadband speed test soon when I moved there but don't know how long does it take for FTTP to activated once u placed an order with ISP. Going for 330/30 but sadly plusnet will not doing this anymore. I have to search for ISP who will do home FTTP 330/30.

That'd be BT or BT.

That'd be BT or BT.

I really fail to understand other CP's willingness to use the Openreach FTTP network ? What do they hope to gain by not doing so ?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG partial Direct In Ground.

This could be interesting.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

That'd be BT or BT.

I really fail to understand other CP's willingness to use the Openreach FTTP network ? What do they hope to gain by not doing so ?

They gain not paying out for the extra Cablelink and saving money on training staff and programming internal systems.

Had Openreach not deployed FTTP in such a backside about face way they may have not set a record for most expensive and slow FTTP rollout in Christendom and deployed it more widely. Had they deployed it more widely that might have made it more commercially viable for other people than the anchor tenant, BT Wholesale.

Case in point - that wonderful new pre-connectorised fibre being trialled in Huntingdon? Verizon's FiOS installs were using it in 2005, Centurylink and AT&T have also used pre-connectorised from the start.

Does FTTP require a separate GEA cable link from FTTC? Don't they join up at an aggregation point on the way to the exchange? Or at least on whatever the OR termination kit at the exchange is called.

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 06-Apr-16 00:15:38)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I know that BT are trial FTTP in most area, but if u placed an order for FTTP, does it mean that it must have BT Openreach specialist engineer to installing FTTP at the property as they probably won't let any third party engineers to do this job?

Don't waste your dosh bud .. 'some' TBB experts are now telling us we don't need the Superfast broadband we are using. 20Mb is just fine for an average family in the year 2016..

Hey just think about all that wasted dosh you will save and you can then spend it on 'things' that will enhance your future in this amazing digital revolution that we are so lucky to be part of

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Does FTTP require a separate GEA cable link from FTTC? Don't they join up at an aggregation point on the way to the exchange? Or at least on whatever the OR termination kit at the exchange is called.

I think @ignition has a different idea (to me) of where the GPON OLT sits within Openreach (ie where the GPON fibres are terminated/lit), where the FTTC uplink fibres terminate (in their OLT) and where the handover node (ie the layer 2 switch) sits.

To me, they are all in the same place - the OLT in the head-end exchange - but I could be wrong; they could be in separate locations - with some form of "uplink" fibre running from the OLTs into the handover node.

The one clear example I have seen comes from @MrSaffron's photos in Cornwall, of a single OLT/handover node. This happens to be an ECI node:
http://coolwebhome.co.uk/fibre-cornwall/
See picture 22, but 20 and 23 are also relevant.

These pictures are of an ECI F-152 OLT.

In 22, it looks like
- All the GPON fibres terminate on the 6 rightmost cards, where fibres slant upwards.
- The centremost 2 cards (that have no fibres, and bulge outwards) are the switching fabric, that act as the layer 2 switch.
- Either side of these 2 cards are the 2 cards that terminate the fibres from FTTC cabs. I think these are 1000base-BX, with one fibre used to each cab, carrying both TX and RX lasers.
- The leftmost card terminates the handover cablelinks. These are more standard GbE 1000base-LX links, with a pair of fibres each - one TX, one RX.

If my interpretation is right, then one cablelink (pair) there handles both FTTC and FTTP. In this case, 48 FTTP splitters (up to 1536 properties) and 24 FTTC cabinets (up to 6912 properties).

It is plausible that this isn't a handover node, and the leftmost card holds Openreach-only upstream cables to a remote handover node. If so, then a single cablelink there would still handle both FTTC and FTTP traffic.

@ignition would be right if FTTP GPON fibres terminated in a separate OLT from the FTTC fibres. This could happen in some places.

I don't know what happens in the Huawei estate, but their equivalent to the F-152 is their MA-5600T OLT.
http://e.huawei.com/uk/products/fixed-network/access...

In reply to a post by djfunkdup:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I know that BT are trial FTTP in most area, but if u placed an order for FTTP, does it mean that it must have BT Openreach specialist engineer to installing FTTP at the property as they probably won't let any third party engineers to do this job?

Don't waste your dosh bud .. 'some' TBB experts are now telling us we don't need the Superfast broadband we are using. 20Mb is just fine for an average family in the year 2016..

Hey just think about all that wasted dosh you will save and you can then spend it on 'things' that will enhance your future in this amazing digital revolution that we are so lucky to be part of

Just remember, opinions are like bumholes, everyone has one, and everyone else's but your own stinks

Whilst your post is probable sarcasm about a post by someone in a different forum on a previous day, it's getting a bit boring and therefore irritating as IIRC it's the third time and helps nobody.

Even if taken literally, in this case it would be completely silly in view of the ADSL2+ estimate posted by the OP for the premises.

This could be interesting.

This could be a trench up Max's drive.