In reply to a post by puntoboy:

That's more like it. Thanks for the info. I was worried then that as our homes will only have fibre we would be left behind those with copper lines. But that doesn't seem the case

1gbps sounds lovely, I bet they still set the upload for 20mbps lol

Well a University in Denmark managed to get 43Tbps down a single strand of fibre using a single new design of laser.

Also the G.Fast Speed is the combined down and up stream speeds and would depend on how long the copper from the cabinet to the home is.

Copper length to combined speeds.
< 100m = 500 to 1 Gbps
100m = 500 Mbps
200m = 200 Mbps
250m = 150 Mbps
500m = 100 Mbps

VDSL2 (FTTC) uses a frequency spectrum of 0 to 17MHz (vectored), where as G.Fast uses 0 to 212MHz.

I also read some place that the G.Fast is bolted to the PCP Cabinet and that a FTTC isn't used / required, and that it only supports up to 96 ports / lines using 4 blocks of 24 ports where as the large FTTC cabinets can hold up to 288 ports / lines.

So it seems that granted you might get faster speeds with G.Fast, but their is a great chance you will miss out due to being slow to order.

But with the 1Gbps FTTP / FTTH that will be a premium service which will probable cost a lot more, considering their 300 / 20 service costs about ~ £50 pm.

Paul

In reply to a post by puntoboy:

What I would prefer is 200 down and something like 50 up.

I'm curious. What is it that you want to do that requires those speeds?

In reply to a post by Ignitionnet:

They aren't testing doubling the upstream capacity for their health.

Well I can only go by what VM told me.

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In reply to a post by puntoboy:

What I would prefer is 200 down and something like 50 up.

I'm curious. What is it that you want to do that requires those speeds?

Does it matter? but if you really want to know, uploading several thousand photos, videos and other data to OneDrive etc. Also streaming video from my NAS when I'm away from home.

G.fast in the wave to 2020 will be bolted to the PCP http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7447-update-on-g-...

But for access to power and the fibres, this initial roll-out will be areas where there is a VDSL2 cabinet already.

We modelled how many needed to cover the 10 million premises, and even have that on a map at https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/index.php?tab=... of course no guarantee areas shown will be enabled, but the theory used was sound.

Worth noting that G.Fast uses Time division duplexing (TDD) rather than the Frequency division duplexing used by ADSL/VDSL. The potential benefit of this is that there can be flexibility on the downstream/upstream split on an individual line basis, if Openreach are prepared to allow it.

Have talked about this, and the consensus seemed to be that to operate in the vectored environment that G.fast is by default the splitting will have to be the same across all lines in that pod.

When you do video and photo editing for a living and need to share with clients etc then thats when you need those speeds. In many cases for me upload is more important than the download speeds.

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In reply to a post by adriandaz:

250/125 isn't too bad

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Looks excellent, KCOM, can't say I heard of them. Is that a lease line or regular FTTP? OR something else?

KCOM are Kingston Communications. They are a provider who I think server Hull, There is no BT presence in Hull so Sky and others also compete there, again I think,

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

G.fast in the wave to 2020 will be bolted to the PCP http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7447-update-on-g-...

But for access to power and the fibres, this initial roll-out will be areas where there is a VDSL2 cabinet already.

We modelled how many needed to cover the 10 million premises, and even have that on a map at https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/index.php?tab=... of course no guarantee areas shown will be enabled, but the theory used was sound.

That's about right, I did see the G.Fast Pod on the right side of the PCP Cabinet.

Paul