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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:06:50
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Although I don't have FVA (as Plusnet don't support it), when the ONT was installed the engineer did fit the FVA faceplate and wired it in so as to future proof the property. There is a switch on the faceplate to switch between fibre and copper.
Might be worth asking for it to be installed when the ONT goes in.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:24:00
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In reply to a post by georgelnx:
I have had my FTTP in for 4 years now and only had 1 bad experience with reliability.
That was when the FTTP card in the exchange went bad which affected all 32 users on it and it took best part of 3 months to get it fixed.
The symptoms were the download speed dropping to 5Mbps, massive packet loss and then speed ramping up over a 24 hour period. The users were all with different ISPs too.
You are saying there are 32 or more FTTP-supplying ISPs? To say that, presumably from somewhere you have a list, which is what the Subject is asking for smile.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:26:25
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No Bob, he is saying the fault affected all 32 users on the splitter node I believe.


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:43:13
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Ah, maybe that too, but he specifically said, (my bold), "the FTTP card in the exchange went bad which affected all 32 users on it and it took best part of 3 months to get it fixed.
The symptoms were the download speed dropping to 5Mbps, massive packet loss and then speed ramping up over a 24 hour period. The users were all with different ISPs too".

Even less likely that 32 FTTP-supplying ISPs were on a single splitter. I question the poster's statement about the different ISPs, but if he is correct a list from him would be useful to loads of people smile.

There will be some rarely mentioned ones of course, usually business user specialists.

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(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:43:39
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As this is a new build it is likely that there will be no copper into the building and therefore ordering ADSL will nit be an option. In that case you can rule PlusNet out. If you do not have copper then the phone will also be supplied through the fibre as well through FVA which is another thing that PlusNet will not do.

So you need to be sure that you know exactly what you are getting and then make sure that any provider can supply everything that you need. BT may be one of your only options.

I have been with BT since I had my FTTP installed and have had no issues. I am only on the Infinity 2 80/20 option. I did not need the need for the higher speeds of Infinity 3/4.
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(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:44:27
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I think it's more the cost for Openreach to test it, build it and then have the systems to support it. The cost x income is surely not going to be there.

A lot of people don't realise how much Openreach spend (in terms of time and money) on the development and IT side of things.
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(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 09:46:57
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
Does your chosen FTTP ISP offer an FVA service ? I am of the opinion that FVA isn't available to those using FTTPoD.


Yep, not available for FoD or if you're on a ECI OLT.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 21-Feb-17 10:02:01
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IIRC Plusnet did sort out supplying FTTP to fibre-only new builds, a year or possibly two years ago. Though you are right they seem not to want to do it except through prior ADSLx where that is available.

Presumably the trial system for Plusnet FTTP is now routine, but the fibre-only site order has to be done manually by the only person they employ who knows how to do it successfully, and that person is completely over-loaded with other work they have for similar reasons. wink laugh ... crazy

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Feb-17 10:21:39
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....... And still no FVA from them either.

I am still at a loss to understand why the likes of Sky and TT don't have FTTP based offerings ?

Fibre only new build estates are starting to become commonplace, why deny yourselves revenue ??

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(deleted) Tue 21-Feb-17 10:22:51
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In reply to a post by georgelnx:
when the ONT was installed the engineer did fit the FVA faceplate and wired it in so as to future proof the property. There is a switch on the faceplate to switch between fibre and copper.
Might be worth asking for it to be installed when the ONT goes in.


Thanks, that's an excellent tip....and I will be ready to 'bribe' the OR Engineer with an unlimited supply of cream cakes & freshly brewed coffee/tea wink

Have spoken to Fluidata again, they said they've never heard of FVA but can supply a VOIP service over the fibre line. They're happy to enquire this with OR so I've sent them details of FVA, but as others have said, it appears FVA isn't available for FoD connections (yet?). But I'll try to get my master socket future proofed at least.
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