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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Sun 11-Jun-17 19:50:26
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Re: My Fluidone FTTPoD install experience


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Ping still quite too high for FTTP. I get ping of 10ms with Plusnet FTTC.

Edited by adslmax (Sun 11-Jun-17 19:51:05)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 11-Jun-17 20:05:59
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Ping still quite too high for FTTP. I get ping of 10ms with Plusnet FTTC.


FTTP or not, I'm pretty sure its impossible to get pings of 10ms from north of the border. You can't change the laws of physics...
Standard User jabuzzard
(newbie) Mon 12-Jun-17 10:03:54
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Re: My Fluidone FTTPoD install experience


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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
An Engineer arrived a few weeks later (was surprised to see the ONT & internal cabling already installed), spent a few minutes activating the ONT using its serial number and bingo the PON light changed to a solid green. However my router (Netgear R9000) wouldn't establish a connection to the ONT and neither would the spare one from the Engineer. After further investigation it became clear the service required PPPoE authentication to Fluidone's Radius servers (despite the carrier being BT Wholesale) so had no choice but to use the ISP supplied Juniper SRX300 firewall between my router and the Openreach ONT. Its a horrible lump of metal which I could do without (missus was so incensed by it she threatened to rip out the external fibre CSP frown but after some cajoling she calmed down LOL) however its not interfering with my router's activities, eg no double NAT or neither is it doing any DHCP routing so may have to bear with it.


Eh, personally I would flog the Netgear thing and stick in one or more WiFi access points. Why you would continue with a piece of consumer grade tat as your router when you have a piece of quality enterprise kit is beyond me. There is even a web interface in J-Web so you don't need to do it via the command line.

It also probably accounts for the not quite right performance you are seeing as well.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 12-Jun-17 11:16:47
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Eh, personally I would flog the Netgear thing and stick in one or more WiFi access points. Why you would continue with a piece of consumer grade tat as your router when you have a piece of quality enterprise kit is beyond me. There is even a web interface in J-Web so you don't need to do it via the command line.

It also probably accounts for the not quite right performance you are seeing as well.


LOL I wouldn't say the Netgear R9000 is "tat". Its Netgear's flagship router (costing ~ £400) which is currently the most powerful consumer router - certainly on a par with many enterprise kits wrt raw power & wifi radios. It has a 1.7ghz Alpine quadcore processor along with 1GB ram and 512mb flash memory with the latest Wave 2 wifi radios - its certainly making a difference in giving me buttery smooth Plex streams (it has a built-in Plex media server). Though once Asus release this beauty in UK, i imagine the R9000 won't be at the top of the pile anymore.

Anyway even connecting my pc directly to the SRX300 is giving me the same TBB speedtest results so the issue definitely isn't with my R9000. I suspect the SRX300 is acting as a bottleneck somewhere and I also appear to be getting a little packet loss even when my connection is idle - https://goo.gl/EnTCmk

I'm looking at the possibility of 'sniffing' out the PPPoE credentials with Wireshark on the SRX300 so i can connect the Netgear directly to the Openreach ONT. The sooner the totally locked down SRX300 is binned the better smile

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Standard User ferretuk
(member) Mon 12-Jun-17 12:25:32
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Before you bin the Juniper box, check your T&C's. Have you bought an FTTPoD connection or a service? Do Fluidone run any kind of monitoring on the connection as part of their service provision?

If the service has been provided on the basis of ethernet hand-off then you could be breaking contract terms and Fluidone could deny you service as a result?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 12-Jun-17 17:26:56
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Re: My Fluidone FTTPoD install experience


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Not perfect but looking a lot better:

My Broadband Speed Test

Fluidone tested my connection via my laptop connected to the SRX300 using Nut TCP and managed to get ~300 Mbps when sending data down the line, they said they cannot see anything wrong with my line:

https://s9.postimg.org/qvs579jvj/236745_-_Download.png

I literally begged them to provide the PPPoE login details but again they refused to as its a 'Managed Service' so as part of the service agreement I have to use the Juniper. Oh well I guess its onto Wireshark sniffing wink

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(deleted) Mon 12-Jun-17 17:41:09
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Would be nice having 330/30 Speeds but I have to think.. taking into account the £3700 you've paid then the £300 monthly fee( I'm pretty sure BTW pricing is around £120 per month for FTTPOD someone can correct me if they like.) leaving a nice £180 for fluidone per month.

In terms in value would have to look long term and say once your contract period is up you can go native FTTP for a nice little price but. At a total cost of £15k I cant say i see the value.

But then again i'm not sure what you need the connection for or what sort of business you run so im going to assume its all fine for you!

Good thread either way including the other one been interesting following your journey and good details! Answered alot of questions for my own queries too!

Ty
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Jun-17 18:31:09
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I literally begged them to provide the PPPoE login details but again they refused to as its a 'Managed Service' so as part of the service agreement I have to use the Juniper. Oh well I guess its onto Wireshark sniffing

Weird, were I your ISP I'd be happy to give you the details, to assist in faulting, and proving it weren't the kit I insist you use causing the issue you are reporting ......

.. seems good working practice to me.

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 12-Jun-17 20:20:03
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I literally begged them to provide the PPPoE login details but again they refused to as its a 'Managed Service' so as part of the service agreement


That's a load of rubbish. They should provided you the PPPoE login detail as you have your own right!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 13-Jun-17 00:11:48
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In reply to a post by jdigz7:
Good thread either way including the other one been interesting following your journey and good details! Answered alot of questions for my own queries too!


I'd like to say cheers too, it's been very interesting.

Of course, I insist that even now the connection is up and running, you keep us constantly updated : smiley :

Edited by deleted (Tue 13-Jun-17 00:13:27)

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