Zarjaz might be able to say if he's seeing the new ONTs already.

Not seen them yet Andy, or heard of them ....

Correct, I had the 4 data port ONT installed. I take it the newer ONTs are smaller?

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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

You might find the BT Openworld are not exactly the folk you want Fibreone to chase.

My fingers and mind seem to be disconnected today! Edited.

I would think smaller and possibly with XG-PON support. Will see though!

I'm wondering if the space saving might be used to provide room for an integral BBU ?

This feature has been mentioned a fair bit in the past.

baby_frogmella

I think you are correct for pinging London from the north of Scotland.

1000km gives 4.9ms of delay just for lightspeed in Fibre. So Inverness to London would be 720km radial or 1500km fibre length giving 7.5ms. Add in some routers and switches at around 1ms per switch, say 2 additional for an extra access hop, ( as the core network should have the same number of hops regardless of where you are) gives around 10ms added to the London-London ping time.

Minimum pings seem to be around 7-9ms which must be NAT lookup plus core network plus CP specific routing. Deep packet inspection or other security screening may add a couple of ms for the bigger operators that are mandated to use it.

I know you can't switch for a while, but if/when you do, would it be worth going to Zen, because their network is in Rochdale? Or would that make no difference because everything has to go to London sooner or later anyway? I can't believe anything is that simple. Surely it's down to where, and how, you are pinging?

This post has been some words which escaped from my head. Please comment.

Thanks for confirming what I've suspected all along.

Ping times are now slightlly better @18-19ms so reasonably happy :

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

I believe most ISPs use the main London data centres (Telehouse Europe?) so using Zen probably wouldn't make much difference. In any case, Zen don't offer speeds above 80/20 on FTTP so its a moot point.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Zen don't offer speeds above 80/20 on FTTP so its a moot point.

Yeah they do here, granted its only available for business connections and states up to 330Mbit down and up to 20Mbit up, granted its costs a lot more.

I was tempted to go with them at first until I saw the price, so went with BT.

Paul