In reply to a post by indigobanana:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

But under the new pricing, the neighbour(s) would need to request for a OR survey for which they would have to pay ~ £200 if they decided not to proceed.

Not forgetting though that an initial estimate would be provided free of charge. As far as I understand it.

Are you sure about that? I thought under the new pricing OR would be getting rid of initial estimates (wrt installation costs) and would only give out installation costs after the survey. At present you're given an initial estimate (based on distance band) which is then confirmed or revised after the survey.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

Are you sure about that? I thought under the new pricing OR would be getting rid of initial estimates (wrt installation costs) and would only give out installation costs after the survey. At present you're given an initial estimate (based on distance band) which is then confirmed or revised after the survey.

I think so, unless I read it wrong. Sounds like charge is only if the CP has agreed the initial estimate, proceeded to planning phase and then cancelled the order.

In reference to www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/pricing/loadProductPriceDeta...:

4) Prices are subject to survey and relevant FTTP on Demand Build charges. We will provide an initial, non-binding estimate of the level of build costs. Upon confirmation by the communications provider, we will proceed with a planning phase, and establish a final firm price for the build costs which is valid for a period of thirty (30) days. At this stage, if the communications provider does not want to proceed with the Order then it is liable to pay the survey and design fee.

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Thanks, so it appears under the new pricing you will still be able to get a free estimate of installation costs up front. Let's hope OR don't get snowed under with quotation requests from the Walter Mitty's of this world!

That would be annoying, but out of my control. For the pricing to change where the initial cost was paid by me but I suppose its early adopter issue.

I should add though, the chances of anyone on my street paying for fibre is 0%. unless it comes down £30 a month, no one on the street is interested in paying over that. I am a techie, work in IT industry (work remotely) so have different reasons.

I would say you were a late adopter of a product most of us had been expecting to disappear in the near future. It is some time since BT started suggesting they were reviewing the old FTTPoD pricing model so I think most were waiting to see what they did.

Fair point, but still I signed up for what it was at the time (and currently is) - can't complain about the future

This is probably a dumb question but I will ask it anyway.

If neighbours of us early adopters apply for fibre on demand do they then share the same physical cable that runs all the way to the cabinet or agg node that we paid money to install?

In other words will they use up our bandwidth or do OR run new lines to the telephone pole?

Fibre on Demand is no different to GEA-FTTP - the only differences have been ones to do with the price you pay

Under old FoD pricing it was priced so that you did not pay the full cost, and others ordering would still have to buy a FoD product with probably slightly less pricing than the first person.

Under new FoD pricing, an allowance is made for those the FoD order in theory makes, but anyone else ordering after the FoD customer is live gets access to the standard GEA-FTTP install pricing i.e. no FoD supplement needed.

In terms of bandwidth, go read on how GPON works i.e. 2.5 Gbps shared between a split of users, in the Openreach network that's 32 customers, some other GPON providers use the maximum of 128. Point to point fibre gives you dedicated bandwidth but at a slightly higher install cost and is what Gigaclear use currently.

The CBT/DP on my polenhas 8 ports serve red by a single fibre. Since fibre can do 40GB depending on the connection point on each side, I�m guessing it�s the same fibre. Either way I can�t inagine our bandwidth getting split. That will happen from the exchange onwards