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Standard User MrBeeline
(committed) Sat 02-Dec-17 21:16:18
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Re: Fibre / conduit question


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From how I understand it... The green cabinet (fibre enabled I believe) that we are connected to, is in the local town (Dalbeattie) opposite the Bank of Scotland (so says the Openreach man) and there is then some 2km of copper cable that then heads out of the town to us (all under ground). Our connection just appears to be spliced into the cable that runs past our property (basically middle of nowhere). There's just sort of waterproof connector under the hedge between us and the road. A black armored cable then goes approx. 25m on to our house from this connector and rather than continue onto the house the last 25m, some bright spark thought it was a good idea to stick a 15ft pole up and run a drop cable the other 25m. That's been fine for 40 years, unluckily a rather large branch from an Oak tree fell on it and brought the cable down last month (but that's another story).

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Mike
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(deleted) Sun 03-Dec-17 07:46:23
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Re: Fibre / conduit question


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Given your occupation, you may be able to confirm that in the vast majority of cases, it is fttC that is being installed, with fttP etc being relatively rare, although hopefully increasing.

My understanding is that FTTP etc is relatively expensive, particularly getting the final new fibre individual runs to the premises - apparently corresponding to the existing D-Side Copper, as that final run can involve a high amount of work, whether overhead or under-ground or a combination.

Also the specialist installers required, judging by the Yarnfield Recruitment thread.

Additionally, I only have direct knowledge of watching and discussing some FTTC upgrades being done, so now after about 70 (possibly 96) in varying degrees locally, I have some confidence in describing that - whereas I have not encountered any FTTP etc installations, so choosing to avoid that, although reading the various postings about it.

Given your experience, you may be able to describe FTTP installations in detail, particularly as you seem to be suggesting that FTTP is more likely in the OP's situation, to the benefit of the OP and many of the forum participants.
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(deleted) Sun 03-Dec-17 08:12:43
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If that green cabinet is "old" and does NOT have vents on it, it is likely to be an (old) PCP.

If it is new(ish), with vents and mains-warning signs, close to a PCP as above, it is likely to be the FTTC Cabinet, providing the VDSL signals to the PCP.

Frequently, there are signs of associated new(ish) trenches between the two, to accommodate the ducting for the Link Cables.

The FTTC may also have SuperFibre adverts on them; but not always. My local FTTC is devoid of adverts of any sort.

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If it is newi(ish), with vents etc but nowhere near another older cabinet, it may be an AIO (All In One) Cabinet usually associated with direct EO (Exchnage-Only) lines which go to subscribers without involving a PCP.

These AIO cabinets are relatively recent additions to the FTTC range; and are usually if not always very close to the Exchange.

They combine the functions of a PCP and FTTC.

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Very recently our PCP was "modernised" by having a new cabinet shell fitted, very similar to the FTTC - but without vents, warning signs etc, the latter because only the low phone voltages are and should be present.

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I wonder if your solitary phone pole was to avoid other (unmapped/unrecorded) services on that final part?


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(deleted) Mon 04-Dec-17 03:02:59
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These AIO cabinets are relatively recent additions to the FTTC range; and are usually if not always very close to the Exchange.
Not always. Our AIO is c2km from both our exchange (Vauxhall) and headend (Walworth).
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