How do you feel now about what this has cost you? Initial excitement gone and pings perhaps not what you expected.

£14500 over a 3 year period is a hell of a lot of money, over 400 quid a month.

How does it compare to the alternative solution of just having a couple of lines installed, one for back ground downloading and one for general browsing? This could save you enough money to pay a small mortgage!

In reply to a post by Ripley:

How do you feel now about what this has cost you? Initial excitement gone and pings perhaps not what you expected.

£14500 over a 3 year period is a hell of a lot of money, over 400 quid a month.

How does it compare to the alternative solution of just having a couple of lines installed, one for back ground downloading and one for general browsing? This could save you enough money to pay a small mortgage!

LOL not sure why you think I would have regrets? I took out the service to future proof my connectivity in my "forever" home with FTTP, its certainly considerably cheaper than a leased fibre line albeit without the better SLAs - I was quoted > £700 pm for a fibre leased line for similar speeds. Yes, i could have taken out multiple FTTC lines but it would still be based on last mile copper technology along with all the caveats, eg noise margins, DLM banding, distance to cabinet, etc. Was it expensive? Yes, in relation to a £19.99 pm TalkTalk FTTC service but definitely not when compared to a £700 pm leased line. Do I have any regrets? Absolutely not.

As for FTTP line performance, I'm getting ~ 310/30 Mbps day & night 7 days a week....which is basically leased line performance despite being on a shared bandwidth service. Pings of 2-3 ms would be great but that's simply impossible for a connection in North Scotland with ISP's servers in London. I was getting ~ 22ms on FTTC and now getting ~ 19ms on FTTP. I'm pretty sure the laws of physics cannot be changed

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I just cant really see any justification in it from your response. In real world use I'm sure 99% of the time it would make little difference in comparison to an FTTC line. The comparison to a £700 lease line doesn't really make it value for money in terms of what you would use it for.

I only ask as I have been interested in it myself, but it seems crazy when you do the numbers.

I get what you are saying about the future proofing.

I've just gone live on the FluidOne service as well and, for me, the main reasons are

a) Future proofing the connection and

b) Upload speeds. Even with 3x FTTC connections I was getting 3Mb/s up which was restrictive for any larger upload. Having 30Mbp/s up has been great, made a major difference for things like file copies when I'm on my work's VPN. Also means that we can re-enable cloud storage without having random periods where our network gets locked up by uploads.

The extra download over the 50Mbp/s I was getting on 3xFTTC is nice but not as critical. Of course the other part for me was that I was already paying roughly the same as the FluidOne cost for A&A Office::1 FTTC, so the only difference is the one-off install fee.

I was meaning to ask about your speeds on FluidOne. Have you run any speedtests in the evenings/weekends?

I've been getting pretty close to 300Mbp/s down during the day but at night that drops off quite a bit (can go as low as 100Mbp/s). I'm sorting out some speedtests with them to look into what's causing that but interested to know if it's just my connection or a wider thing.

In reply to a post by raesene:

I was meaning to ask about your speeds on FluidOne. Have you run any speedtests in the evenings/weekends?

I've been getting pretty close to 300Mbp/s down during the day but at night that drops off quite a bit (can go as low as 100Mbp/s). I'm sorting out some speedtests with them to look into what's causing that but interested to know if it's just my connection or a wider thing.

Nup, I'm getting > 300 Mbps day and night. A speedtest just now:

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/6893990766

From your description it seems like you're on a congested link somewhere between the exchange and Fluidone's network, on the BT Wholesale network. Worth asking Fluidone if they can get BTW to put you on a different virtual path (SVLAN) at your headend exchange. Also your exchange may not have BTW 10Gbp/s backhaul links in which case BTW putting you on a different SVLAN may not help. I believe the exchange I'm connected to (Inverness Macdhui) has 10 Gig links which might explain why I'm not experiencing slowdowns at peak times.

Ahh very interesting thanks for the info.

We're doing some NUTTCP testing tomorrow afternoon between our connection and the FluidOne core network, so if there's a bottleneck around the head end exchange that would show up then hopefully, and that fits the bill of what we're seeing.

In reply to a post by raesene:

I was meaning to ask about your speeds on FluidOne. Have you run any speedtests in the evenings/weekends?

I've been getting pretty close to 300Mbp/s down during the day but at night that drops off quite a bit (can go as low as 100Mbp/s). I'm sorting out some speedtests with them to look into what's causing that but interested to know if it's just my connection or a wider thing.

FTTP is up to 330Meg speed. (no one can guarantee it) just be glad you got FTTP while everyone's else stuck on copper wiring up to 80Meg.

just be glad you got FTTP while everyone's else stuck on copper wiring up to 80Meg.

As far as I can tell they've paid for the FTTPoD installation - something that most people on FTTC are welcome to do if they want to.

In reply to a post by walkers:

FTTP is up to 330Meg speed. (no one can guarantee it)

Although there are no guarantees with FTTP, BT Wholesale offers service level agreements. These have recently been significantly enhanced for certain ultrafast products:

G.Fast/FTTP

Product | Variant | Minimum Best Efforts

160/30 Standard 95Mbps
160/30 Elevated 110Mbps

330/50 Standard 195Mbps
330/50 Elevated 225Mbps

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