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(deleted) Fri 16-Feb-18 17:06:07
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It's all a bit fruitless anyway.

Once a ONT is registered to the OLT, you would need to reset the OLT to register a new ONT.

@Zarjaz will be able to confirm a little bit about how it all works.
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(deleted) Fri 16-Feb-18 17:11:20
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XGPON will mean new ONTs (the current ones are GPON only as I understand it). An XGPON ONT would likely have a 10GbE port. This one on alibaba does, for example.
Standard User zzing123
(newbie) Fri 16-Feb-18 17:21:25
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So again, with the new FTTPoD prices, they're promising 1gbps connections later this year too - should prices be reasonable (ie around £1-1.5k which is my elasticity point for FTTPoD) I will probably opt for a slower 'intermediary' speed for the initial 12 month pain, and upgrade to full bore gigabit, and so with the £11.25 regrade fee, surely it's best to have an ONT that can do XGPON...


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(staff) Fri 16-Feb-18 17:34:42
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Why do you think Openreach will swallow the extra costs of adding the XGPON optics within the standard £11.25 regrade fee? This extra cost is why the 500 and 1000 Mbps products carry a higher set up fee and thus are targeted at the business sector.

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(staff) Fri 16-Feb-18 17:40:35
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And for those worrying about presenting a 1 Gbps service over a 1 Gbps Ethernet port, what is the actual worry?

Plenty of commercial services do this, and its not like consumer grade routers are two a penny with a 10GbE WAN interfaces

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Standard User zzing123
(newbie) Fri 16-Feb-18 18:01:12
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Where have they said that in the new pricing announcements?
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(staff) Fri 16-Feb-18 18:04:56
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They have not, but I would urge caution, there is not point in having a different set up fee if people can simply regrade and trigger the extra work for XGPON and thus I believe the regrade will not be possible.

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(deleted) Fri 16-Feb-18 18:12:09
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If you look at

https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/prici...

the fixed connection price from BT Openreach for 500 and 1000 service jumps from £92 to £500 so by the time that comes via BT Wholesale and the ISP - we can expect a bump in install prices of £450+
Standard User zzing123
(newbie) Fri 16-Feb-18 18:13:46
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Having a look at the price list again...

XGPON has a £500 fixed connection fee, versus GPON at £92 (£408 difference). Regrade fee is £11.25. I would assume that this difference is the cost of optics.

Even so, £408 + £11.25 = £419.25, which is still cheaper than the difference between a 330 annual fee and the 1000 annual fee (£504) but more than the 160 -> 500mbps annual fee (£406.32).

/methinks this is another small point for your notepad when whispering to OR and getting under the skin of the new FTTPoD regime wink
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(deleted) Fri 16-Feb-18 18:29:51
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I do not trust their price list. If you look at the retail FTTP price list which is a bit more informative that the FTTPoD version (located at https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/prici... ),

... the bandwidth change pricing is dated from June 2014, and I suspect relates to changes in all the sub 330 / XXX speeds which would have been possible since then using standard GPON optics.

I suspect that as > 330 speeds become readily available, we will see revised pricing for those faster circuits.
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