SK10 5RX

All except no 8 announce �good news, FTTC service...� bla bla bla. As, for some reason, they don�t think no 8 is cable of a workable FTTC service on the current infrastructure it reveals the statement about FTTP being planned - you really need to get this confirmed as no doubt you and your client will be kicking yourselves if you go down the route of some more expensive, possibly inferior, solution just to find FTTP pops up shortly afterwards.

There might already be evidence of FTTP infrastructure being installed on the nearby poles - post some photos of the local pole tops, etc.

interesting comments al66 about looking at the poles ..

Confused -This is a different client to the one you�ve asked about previously?

Sorry yes - I've got three rural clients. This is Owen House wedding barn.

>SK10 5RX

Ahh yes, that's the Bakestonedale/Brickworks site where fibre has recently been run up the valley past the site.

This one is a single business near Manchester airport that's on VDSL2+ 20Mbps/1MBps at the moment and they need higher upstream for VOIP.

May do but focussing more on FTTPoD for now. The install costs all the way back to the exchange may make a leased line a non-contender. Now it all depends upon how near the aggregate node is and the install cost to there.

Getting published prices for FTTPoD online is tricky but I did find some examples.

Over three years per month: BTnet @ 30Mbps is £550 + unknown install fee from £0 to £??, FuildOne @ 300Mbps/30Mbps is £300, Cerebus @ 300Mbps/30Mbps is £156-£270 depending on install costs

So a potential saving of £14k - which buys a lot of early termination charges.

These costs are based on the old pricing so install cost expected to rise, but lower activation fee and monthly costs?

Yes, the BTnet is a leased line but I honestly think that's overkill for my client. If the Wi-Fi goes down at a wedding, the world doesn't end. And we could always hook up a mobile via USB to the Draytek.

Found it! - also found the cabinet (3), at the junction of Hobcroft, Church & Lady lanes - 1400m

No clues to future native FTTP but still worth asking Connecting Cheshire, no doubt would be further down the queue than other more pressing areas. Bonding extra FTTC lines would probably be the cheapest option? Followed by FTTPoD depending on where the aggregation node is.

Hope they�re not hosting their own website on the FTTC - very slow (and hard to read!).

>Found it! - also found the cabinet (3), at the junction of Hobcroft, Church & Lady lanes - 1400m

Well done! I knew which cabinet they were on but had failed to find it. But doh! I drive past it on the way to the wedding barn and yes, there it is. I know the 90deg bend but just shows how you block out cabinets 1.4km as the bird flies/1.6km on road is on the nose for the speeds they get.

https://goo.gl/maps/dARySs7HvKp

>Bonding extra FTTC lines would probably be the cheapest option?

That's how all this started We were going to put in another VDSL2 line, connect that via the BT hub into the Draytek as a 2nd bonded line. That would give 2Mbps upstream and could dedicate 1Mbps for VOIP through QoS. But OpenReach came up with a spurious connection charge of £3,145 - for VDSL2???

https://www.dropbox.com/s/327t04rpfjh4htp/bt-connect...

Never got the bottom of what this charge actually was! Annoying thing is that there are nine phone line already into various buildings. Two are VDSL2, other seven are ADSL. Just not easy to being them all together. If you could get hold of the Openreach engineer onsite, I'm sure we could re-use some of those for possibly quad-bonded. Simples if you can find the right person.

>Followed by FTTPoD depending on where the aggregation node is.

Indeed... will the 3rd party ISPs (e.g. Cerebus) be able to find that out so they can give some very ballpark install costs? Or is a survey always needed?

>Hope they�re not hosting their own website on the FTTC - very slow (and hard to read!).

Nothing to do with me And no, it's hosted elsewhere. Suggested that the pink contact us wasn't the best colour. And Vanessa doesn't work there anymore!

If all the copper pairs are in use, then the telephone USO does not count as you have a line already, and thus they can charge the full actual cost of getting a new line to the premises.

3rd party providers may use different wholesalers and payment terms so you can get very different prices.

All the providers will be subject to survey as there are numerous gotcha's that can make a big difference to the pricing.

Best case you are 1.4km from the aggregation node, likely to be more, so your £14,000 saving is likely to vanish in the on demand build cost.