In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

Anyway, I was initially excited to see this being reflected. But now I am not so excited because of Wayleave.... I am a Hyperoptic Champion of my Building. For 3 years I have struggled to convince my Building Estate Managers to sign an agreement. 3 different Hyperoptic Representatives have tried to speak to the authority. But authority says they are busy with other more important matters like Cladding Fire Safety.

Unfortunately until we can't get this dreaded Wayleave sorting out. There's nothing to be excited about. I have managed to convince 30+ residents to register their interest for Hyperoptic and this has made zero difference in influencing the Estate Managers to sign an agreement. Obviously they are a bunch of selfish people who don't live as residents in my building so they don't care!

You know that if enough residents buy their freehold they can sack (or dictate to) the building managers? I don't know if this applies to council properties though.

If its council owned, then get the 30 plus residents to write to their MP, perhaps he'll have more clout.

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In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

Anyway, I was initially excited to see this being reflected. But now I am not so excited because of Wayleave.... I am a Hyperoptic Champion of my Building. For 3 years I have struggled to convince my Building Estate Managers to sign an agreement. 3 different Hyperoptic Representatives have tried to speak to the authority. But authority says they are busy with other more important matters like Cladding Fire Safety.

Unfortunately until we can't get this dreaded Wayleave sorting out. There's nothing to be excited about. I have managed to convince 30+ residents to register their interest for Hyperoptic and this has made zero difference in influencing the Estate Managers to sign an agreement. Obviously they are a bunch of selfish people who don't live as residents in my building so they don't care!

You know that if enough residents buy their freehold they can sack (or dictate to) the building managers? I don't know if this applies to council properties though.

The building was once a council property but it is now privatised and owned by East End Homes for more than a decade. They are the freehold owners. They have many other buildings but none of them of-course have had agreements on Fibre Broadband. The Hyperoptic Representatives have expressed difficulty getting an agreement for any of their owned buildings.

There are 50 leaseholders including myself and 32 others are council tenants. There are a total of 82 flats.

But as you'll probably know most leaseholders do not permanently live in the flat, they use it for renting out business. I am probably one of very few leaseholders who live here in this block the rest are tenants and council tenants.

When it comes to buildings freeholders don't really apply. The freeholder is that private Building Estate owner the rest are leaseholders and council tenants.

Obviously as a Hyperoptic Champion I did manage to get 28+ residents to register their interest in 6 months. This registering of residents successfully completed in February 2015.

I think if this was a council owned block an agreement would've been made easier. But I can't get hold of the other leaseholders to give pressure on the authority. So far I was the only one alone trying to speak to the Managers after the Hyperoptic Representative told me via email to try and speak to them.

What I believe is that there is a lack of communication between the authority. The Technical Service Manager does not work in the office next to my residential block. He works in another office in Canary Wharf. There's no proper communication between the Housing Manager and the Technical Manager. This is what I believe is the source of this poor administration.

I am thinking to speak to my local MP but as a last resort. As I have also mentioned Fire Safety of the block is an issue. I am happy to give the authority time to sort this out and then see if they will concentrate more on Fibre. I do believe pressure every once in a while may help as they'll become fed-up eventually. But I don't want to have to annoy them for them to be motivated to take the matter more seriously.

OK. I think taking over the freehold and management can work for leaseholders in small blocks who can work together - but a bit ambitious for your circumstances!

With my County Councillor hat on, I would suggest that you persuade the 32 council tenants to complain through their local Councillor to the Local Authority to whom they are paying their rent to. Get the local press involved too. LAs and Councillors don't like bad press and this can be a way of getting something done.

Good Luck!

Freehold maybe but taking over management normally just needs a majority of the leaseholders to vote to self manage however I'm uncertain as to how having council tenants alters this.

Some details can be found at Right to Manage

Very similar story for us on the Whitehall exchange. EO line, now rolling out FTTP with other addresses on our road able to get FTTP. I can't get wayleave from our board or management company for either Hyperoptic or BT. There seem to be other priorities which leaves us with slow ADSL or flaky 4G from Relish

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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

So the email was from �Pushpender� ?

Who�s name sounds suspiciously like a play on pen pusher, and who couldn�t spell fibre correctly ?

Yep, that sounds completely plausible.

The email is legit and comes from a genuine openreach email. http://oi64.tinypic.com/2nk6l9w.jpg Here's the screenshot of the email, I removed my email from the screenshot for my own safety.

Actually both Fiber and Fibre are accurate spellings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber But I guess here he chose the less popular spelling. Regardless, that doesn't make the email illegitimate.

I know sometimes there are people working in sectors that aren't always professional enough to deserve their positions, but that's life I guess....

I never got further email responses on whether there is a plan for FTTP or not. The point I wanted to make is that initially this guy Pushpender Rana said the fibre is going to go through a traditional green cabinet which indicated that it is FTTC.

I told him we don't want FTTC and then 5 weeks later I am seeing Bishopsgate Exchange is on a plan to be upgraded to FTTP. Now I do not know whether this is a coincidence or simply Bishopsgate is now under the Fibre First programme. The fact is we don't know if BT Openreach will expand the Bishopsgate Exchange coverage to residential blocks other than the office buildings. We will have to wait and see.

Fair enough. Maybe Openreach India are dealing with this mailbox also now? Fibre isn�t spelt like that in the company. It isn�t British English, I think the spelling �fibre� can be used in American English though but the common spelling there is fiber.

Regardless, Fibre should be spelt fibre in the UK! Some training is needed for Pushwander I think.

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Regardless, Fibre should be spelt fibre in the UK! Some training is needed for Pushwander I think.

LOL

Paul

To update you on the latest progress. It appears that BT Openreach have betrayed us!

Guess what just happened?! Openreach apparently changed their minds on FTTP plans for Bishopsgate. Exchange name: Bishopsgate

�You�re in a plan to get Superfast fibre but we haven�t started work yet.� <�� Only until a few days ago for 4 months before that it said "Your area is currently in our plans to be upgraded with Fibre to the Premises (FTTP)."

I'm pretty angry about this but I was mentally and psychologically prepared for that to happen. I knew BT Openreach might betray and change their minds sooner or later.

BT Openreach are lying about their 3 million FTTP aspirations by 2020. Bishopsgate was meant to be in the radar list amongst the 8 exchanges in City of London to be upgraded with FTTP.

15 million premises by 2025 and 100% FTTP by 2033 is not going to happen when they constantly change their minds every once in a while. They have no concrete plan, no timetable action plan or even if they do, they don�t seem to adhere to it!