In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

I'm guessing those with the newer single LAN port ONT will need additional ONT(s) if they wanted to order extra FTTP connections?

Or in that situation they could replace the single-LAN ONT with a multi-LAN one (which ought to be a lot easier, as it would avoid bringing another fibre into the house).

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Or in that situation they could replace the single-LAN ONT with a multi-LAN one (which ought to be a lot easier, as it would avoid bringing another fibre into the house).

Whilst that would be technically possible, you would have to rely on the Openreach Engineer carrying a spare HG8240 in his van as officially OR no longer install the 4 port versions anymore. If you managed to buy one (OR branded) yourself then you would have to ask Openreach to register it on their network (using its serial #) as you can't simply swap out the ONTs yourself willy nilly and expect them to work immediately. I see there's a glut of the 4 port HG8240 ONT's for sale on eBay at present. They're probably worth more than the sellers realise.

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Or in that situation they could replace the single-LAN ONT with a multi-LAN one (which ought to be a lot easier, as it would avoid bringing another fibre into the house).

I believe they are carried as van stock as replacement for existing ones if required.

As ever, the driving force appears to be cost. If installed neatly I never saw any issue with the aesthetics of the four port variety.

I believe 'over-engineering of things' pays dividends in the long run.

Where things are done as cheaply as possible it usually comes back to haunt people at some point.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Many countries with 1 Gbps actually use GPON, as does TalkTalk in York and believe Vodafone will. Hence the cheaper Gigabit, i.e. Openreach is doing its usual over engineer things.

I'm very surprised by this comment.

In what way is not running 32 x 1Gbps over GPON over engineering?

Common sense to to use XGPON for 1 Gbps especially if the increase in usage seen in recent years continues at the same rate.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In what way is not running 32 x 1Gbps over GPON over engineering?

For a "home" 1G service, GPON with a 32:1 split is fine as long as you accept a CIR (guaranteed minimum download speed) of 75Mbps.

The current household average superfast usage is 223GB per month, which works out at an average of about 0.7Mbps.

It is bursty of course; however the chances of all your 31 neighbours all being at home at the same time, let alone them all using more than 75Mbps at the same time, are pretty slim.

Even in the event that five people are caning the link simultaneously, then they'll each get nearly 500M, which is not bad.

And since GPON and XGPON can coexist on the same fibre, individual customers can be upgraded if they really want more. Most people are unlikely to want to pay the extra on day one.

Same applies to backhaul links: you're not going to provision a separate 10G of backhaul for every 32 users.

The 1 Gbps product isn't really a "home" product.

I'd rather pay the setup cost and be on XGPON.

Further down the line if they want to sweat their assets more they can at anytime choose to run a 1 Gbps product over GPON for the home market.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

In reply to a post by Michael_Chare:

Why not port your phone number to a VOIP provider e.g. Voipfone then you can use what equipment you like. You would avoid paying the BT line rental.

Unlike non-Openreach based FTTP providers, I don't think BT Retail sell a 'FTTP only' service, it has to be taken with a phone line whether its on fibre (FVA) or on copper. So the OP might as well make use of the voice element of his line as he will be paying for it regardless.

AIUI he plans to have Plusnet FTTP, they might say that he has to have a telephone service from someone!

> The 1 Gbps product isn't really a "home" product.

People who live in York, or the right part of it, can get a 1G home service from Talktalk/Sky, based on normal GPON. Maybe other Altnets do this too.

It seems reasonable to me to leave the pipe open at 1G so that excess capacity can be used when available, rather than hard-limit it to 330M like Openreach.