In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

.... is not going to happen when they constantly change their minds every once in a while.

Lol, annoying that they always do that sometimes.

To be fair it doesn't actually say they have cancelled their plans.

Some people will have the FTTP coming message and then will switch to exploring solutions, which means nothing is coming at all.

That just points out the work hasn't started. They may have switched the project to FTTC. Better than getting the exploring solutions message though.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

.... is not going to happen when they constantly change their minds every once in a while.

Lol, annoying that they always do that sometimes.

To be fair it doesn't actually say they have cancelled their plans.

Some people will have the FTTP coming message and then will switch to exploring solutions, which means nothing is coming at all.

That just points out the work hasn't started. They may have switched the project to FTTC. Better than getting the exploring solutions message though.

The classic BT things I have seen is for them to install all the FTTP hardware (which is still there up the poles) and then install a fibre cabinet and give them that, to then also offer people FTTPod.

Paul

It is also the case that the checker does go throw some odd states in various areas.

So have seen FTTP areas drop to saying nothing and actual FTTP arrive, and in other cases the message situation the poster has seen happen.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

.... is not going to happen when they constantly change their minds every once in a while.

Lol, annoying that they always do that sometimes.

To be fair it doesn't actually say they have cancelled their plans.

Some people will have the FTTP coming message and then will switch to exploring solutions, which means nothing is coming at all.

That just points out the work hasn't started. They may have switched the project to FTTC. Better than getting the exploring solutions message though.

The problem is that I am seeing for another postcode E1 7RQ that is of Canon Barnett Primary School and that has been downgraded back to� �We�re working with government and industry to explore ways to bring Superfast fibre to as many people as possible but don�t have a plan for your area yet.� That is also under Bishopsgate Exchange when previously it said that it was in a plan to be upgraded with FTTP!

I am viewing this as a sign of negative trend. For years I was getting the �You�re in a plan to get Superfast fibre but we haven�t started work yet.� Superfast means FTTC and Ultrafast would be advertised as FTTP.

They have not upgraded my area with FTTC and it just makes no sense for them to now consider FTTC when Bishopsgate was meant to be 1 of the 8 City of London exchanges as part of the planned upgrades for FTTP as part of Fibre First Programme.

The impression I am getting is that BT Openreach will probably target main office buildings, new buildings and certain properties for Bishopsgate that is easier for them to deploy and obtain wayleave, but it will not cover the entire area or areas that are located in more difficult spots. Now I am less hopeful that by 2020 my postcode area will be upgraded with FTTP. Given how unpredictable BT Openreach are in their words, I don�t trust them.

If they can�t get urban areas sorted how will they convince us that they�ll invest FTTP in towns/rural areas of the UK? This is why I am pessimistic about the UK reaching 50% FTTP by 2025!

Has BT ever said it will cover the whole of Bishopgate?

I am in a similar situation to you. Over 500 flats connected to the Pimlico Exchange are on EO lines and i was quoted £4.7k for an FTTP Build. Back in 2016 the Openreach checker said that we were in plans for FTTP. After a few months, It went back to exploring solutions and it has been there ever since. Hyperoptic (will) connect over 4 buildings which are within 30 meters. One of them being the Private portion of my buidling which share the same basement, courtyard and has a similar layout to mine. They seem to ignore all my emails now for some reason. You should be happy that even with FTTC you will be able to get superfast speeds and the possibility of G.fast in the future.

Hi there, we'd love to check this for you in great detail, since it doesn't sound like us not to reply. Have you send those over to [email protected]? Please send us more details here via PM or to this email address, we'll gladly look into this for you. Thank you.

Outside of remote/rural areas, has an exchange area ever been covered 100% by Openreach FTTP whether commercial or BDUK? I thought it was always a mixture of FTTC/P depending on Openreach's bean counters sums.

Edited by deleted (Wed 25-Jul-18 13:52:06)

They have not upgraded my area with FTTC and it just makes no sense for them to now consider FTTC when Bishopsgate was meant to be 1 of the 8 City of London exchanges as part of the planned upgrades for FTTP as part of Fibre First Programme.

The impression I am getting is that BT Openreach will probably target main office buildings, new buildings and certain properties for Bishopsgate that is easier for them to deploy and obtain wayleave, but it will not cover the entire area or areas that are located in more difficult spots. Now I am less hopeful that by 2020 my postcode area will be upgraded with FTTP. Given how unpredictable BT Openreach are in their words, I don�t trust them.

Isn't it common sense to cover the easier/cheaper parts first?
I'd be surprised to hear OpenReach say they will give blanket FTTP coverage to ANY exchange.

Bishopsgate is probably still part of the Fibre First rollout. I doubt they ever claimed blanket coverage though.
Edinburgh is part of Fibre First. It doesn't mean they will cover every Edinburgh property though.

OpenReach are a commercial company aiming to make a profit.

Edited by j0hn83 (Wed 25-Jul-18 13:50:03)

In reply to a post by Sammm_:

I am in a similar situation to you. Over 500 flats connected to the Pimlico Exchange are on EO lines and i was quoted £4.7k for an FTTP Build. Back in 2016 the Openreach checker said that we were in plans for FTTP. After a few months, It went back to exploring solutions and it has been there ever since. Hyperoptic (will) connect over 4 buildings which are within 30 meters. One of them being the Private portion of my buidling which share the same basement, courtyard and has a similar layout to mine. They seem to ignore all my emails now for some reason. You should be happy that even with FTTC you will be able to get superfast speeds and the possibility of G.fast in the future.

I don't even mind contributing some of the money for FTTP. My building is 20 floors total 82 flats. I have been waiting for more than 5+ years just to get FTTC from BT which I have not had it. I was super excited when I saw the checker change to "In plan for FTTP" I thought I was hallucinating when I saw that 4 months ago!

But now I feel betrayed because it has been reverted back for a plan to get superfast fibre 4 months later after the initial plan. This is not fair because after waiting for so many years on EO line without FTTC. It would've been considered as justice if Openreach jumped on and installed FTTP. But now even if I get FTTC that would be an insult and disrespect when there are so many talks and articles promising that FTTP will come.

If BT Openreach can't cover the entire exchanges as part of their Fibre First Programme we will be looking for another possible 10-15 years before they cover 100% of the areas. Hence why I say this 50% FTTP coverage by 2025 is an absolute nonsense! It will never happen at this rate of speed! Just covering the entire 8 City of London exchanges will take years nevermind getting 100% coverage for the entire UK by 2033.

Btw Hyperoptic are interested to install in my building as I previously noted here. I'm a Hyperoptic Champion of my building where I managed to convince around 30 residents to register their interest within 6 months back in February 2015. Since then we have been stuck with wayleave. The Building Manager told me that his Technical Manager does not want to proceed with an agreement with Hyperoptic! They said if they want to make an agreement for Fibre they'll do it with another provider, not Hyperoptic. This is quite simply a pathetic excuse because I know my Building authority will not grant wayleave whichever provider offered to install their Fibre service. But I wanted to experiment and see if they would accept BT's FTTP offer which unfortunately doesn't seem to happen either.

I spoke to 3 Hyperoptic Representatives who tried to even offer to organise a meeting with the authority in an email correspondence. But the Building Managers didn't even respond to the emails. I have not tried to speak to the Technical Manager yet, but I am thinking about speaking to him directly to see if that would have any positive effect as the main Housing Estate Manager seems to be useless.