In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

That is why I am highly sceptical about FTTC coming either. It hasn't come for years.

In the not-particularly-rural part of Kent I am in, FTTC only arrived at the end of 2014. There are still some EO lines on our exchange, and one EO cabinet is being installed right now - it was due to go live Dec 2017, but this has been pushed back to Oct 2018.

So these things *are* ongoing.

The areas you refer to often had lots of FTTP too, hence why you can get FTTP. Bishopgate is not one of those i.e. projecting a local scenario onto other areas only works if all the factors and history of the areas match

Other housing areas seeing EO infill in London are finding the VDSL2 cabinet is generally pretty close to the cluster it serves - not in all cases but way more than the majority.

If people want to play worst case scenario Bishopgate exchange could be closed and lines served from another further away

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

Isn't it common sense to cover the easier/cheaper parts first?
I'd be surprised to hear OpenReach say they will give blanket FTTP coverage to ANY exchange.

Bishopsgate is probably still part of the Fibre First rollout. I doubt they ever claimed blanket coverage though.
Edinburgh is part of Fibre First. It doesn't mean they will cover every Edinburgh property though.

OpenReach are a commercial company aiming to make a profit.

Another approach would be to target customers who would get the biggest speed improvement as they are more likely to take up an FTTC service. Paying more for FTTP is easier to justify if the alternative is 1.5Mbps ADSL rather that 40Mbps FTTC.

In reply to a post by BLaZiNgSPEED:

I can only hope that living in Central London would mean me getting FTTP before the rest the country.

Has to be the occasional thing London doesn't get first, novel idea as that is.

As its the capital and the face of the whole of the UK, you would expect it to have at least decent broadband. Its a smack in the face when you see that rural areas get better broadband before a place that is populated by 8 million people.

In reply to a post by Sammm_:

As its the capital and the face of the whole of the UK, you would expect it to have at least decent broadband. Its a smack in the face when you see that rural areas get better broadband before a place that is populated by 8 million people.

A bunch of rural areas have better broadband than cities. Afraid you'll have to make do with 4k/year/person of transport funding and a 15 billion pound Crossrail while the city I moved to, from London, is the largest one in Western Europe that is still relying on buses as government refuse to fund better public transport, despite it having double the value for money of Crossrail.

Yes they are low for many, i.e. designed to reflect high cross talk impact.

In reply to a post by Sammm_:

As its the capital and the face of the whole of the UK, you would expect it to have at least decent broadband. Its a smack in the face when you see that rural areas get better broadband before a place that is populated by 8 million people.

Well I do have some sympathy for rural areas. They have worse ADSL broadband than those of us who live in urban cities. So if they get FTTP before me it doesn't upset me that much. Plus rural areas are more boring and depressing to live than urban cities so I guess they deserve better internet...

What does disappoint me is articles like these. https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/07/first-...

"Hyperoptic and Community Fibre hold the exact same wayleave for the same buildings and are even building in the same places at the same time."
�Avondale Square� and �Southwark� will be having properties connected to both Hyperoptic and Community Fibre. Now that's what I find insane. When you consider only 4% of the UK has FTTP. Rather than one of the FTTP providers prioritising it for the more needy they are simultaneously building for properties where there is a clash of competition. And neither of them would dominate. Plus they have BT OR FTTC as well! That's what makes me so angry. There is a disproportionate expansion of Fibre in certain areas while being completely neglected in others!

Yeah thats reaslly infuriating. Im not saying that rural areas dont deserve fast broadband. I was just saying that why does the place that makes the country the most money have worse connections than the places that dont.
When i tell people what speeds I get they're shocked since no one expects it. Looks like i am gonna have to fork out £4.7k or pay £300 a month for a leased line.