He sounds like he doesn't know how it works. Not the 1st OpenReach surveyor who didn't know anything about FTTPoD though.

The speed you get on FTTC is absolutely 100% irrelevant to the cost of FTTPoD.
The fibre doesn't come from the local cabinet.

Many surveyors don't even seem to know where the Agg Node is so how they can survey between the 2 I've no idea.

Also not the 1st case where they survey half the street at the same time.

In reply to a post by Alvintc:

It's a new build (<4 years), this should have been noted on the desktop survey

It should be a relatively quick build as Openreach are unlikely to encounter obstacles such as blocked ducts due to the ducts being fairly new in your area. My home is older than yours (built in 2008) but Openreach still found the U/G ducts in tip top condition and my FoD install went smoothly.

This is how the fibre enters my home, same route as the copper. I don't think you'll get the splice box (CSP) installed as its mostly connectorized fibre these days, provided you're less than 160m away from the DP.

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls5nnn6f/IMG-001.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/LsWhf2nW/IMG-002.jpg

(I never got around to painting the covers in 1 colour, I guess its a job for next Summer!)

Not the best response... but understood.

The survey is not my street - there's only 7 houses on my street, cul-de-sac directly off main road.

He showed me the maps of the area he's surveying and it's pretty big 0.15km2 hence the 120+

Hi Alvintc

I have to agree with j0hn83, if your request for a FTTPoD survey has triggered a survey for 120+ properties it will be a miracle. I also agree with him that the location of your local cabinet\DSLAM is irrelevant unless thats also the location of your nearest aggregation node where your service will be provided through. Maybe the surveyor didn't explain himself properly but as long as you get a good quote who cares about what his surveying today.

Sounds more like an assessment for native FTTP to me. Surveyor's job - count the number of houses with a VM box on the wall LOL.

Native FTTP did go through my mine as well.

HI All, I'm new here. Love this thread. Has anyone in Essex, particularly Billericay, had a desktop quote? My home is currently being heavily remodelled and I feel it would be a perfect time to have FTTP installed for when I move back in. Any info would be greatly apprciated. Im looking to speak to AMVIA early next week. the adsl checker says that FTTP On Demand is available with the 330/30 mbps.

Hey there, I recently got a desktop quote of £21800 + VAT = £26160. My question is... If i get the more accurate quote how long will it last? I'll be saving for more that a year to pay for the quote above. Cerebus says you have one month to accept the final quote and I don't want to waste £300. Also how does the houses passed discount work? They say there are three houses passed but there are eleven housed on my country road to the green box and even more in the opposite direction to the exchange.

Im about 0.5 mile from my green box (apparently that doesn't matter) and about 1 mile from the exchange. Im currently getting 15mb down and 1.5mb up via FTTC (was so disappointed by how slow my FTTC was).

I have beed reading here how some quotes are vastly different from the desktop quote, I don't want to save up £26k and then find out it will cost half of that. That would be nice don't get me wrong, but would mean i wasted six months saving.

Will I have to pay for a new quote in a years time if I pay for a quote now?

When you pay for the survey you are ordering the product.
When you get the full survey quote back you have 30 days to withdraw from the contract, or you can post and the order goes ahead.

Properties passed sounds like they count the properties the fibre passes, but they don't.
They usually count the number of properties that share a copper distribution point (DP).
In some urban areas the newly installed fibre can pass dozens, if not hundreds of properties. Only those who share the final DP count as properties passed.

I'd guess there are 3 other properties on your DP.
The DP may be underground or on a telegraph pole.

I'm not 100% sure how it would work if you choose not to go ahead after ordering a survey but decide to advance at a later date.
It may be that ordering again automatically triggers another survey. I'm sure someone else can comment on that last point.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 07-Jan-19 00:13:32)

In reply to a post by darren_mccoy:

Im about 0.5 mile from my green box (apparently that doesn't matter) and about 1 mile from the exchange. Im currently getting 15mb down and 1.5mb up via FTTC (was so disappointed by how slow my FTTC was).

If you're only getting 15 Mb/s on FTTC then you will be around 1 mile away from your FTTC cabinet based on the actual cable length, not half a mile - see the table here. I'm guessing you're in a rural/semi rural area, for which FTTPoD costs can be substantial as you're also likely to be far from the nearest aggregation node (which feeds FTTP circuits).

If you are serious about going ahead then the survey fee of £200-£300 is potentially just a small % of the final build costs and its definitely not a waste of money as its what Openreach charge to send somebody out there to survey the area, write their report and present the final quote. Yes, in an ideal world the desktop survey quotes would be more realistic but they're not, so it is what it is.

Edited by deleted (Sun 06-Jan-19 19:50:58)