They put those stickers on the pole before they have run any fibre. Certainly shows intent though (at least at some point). Usually these days in rural lanes they seem to go with the pole mouted green box type splitter which they write on what they've done in pen often which is helpful

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Even if there is fibre installed and spliced into the fibre trays it does not mean there is a continuous run to the aggregation node, you have likely a few km of fibre run to the aggregation node and only one problematic pole/road junction/pavement chamber to deal things.

In Wales lots of FTTP areas were left almost finished, because the project had reached its contract goals and thus was not going to pay for any more.

I accept that the contract goals may have been reached but if that turns out to be the case it seems an awful waste of money.

If the combined finances of BT/OR/Staffordshire County Council and BDUK cannot complete the connection to the fibre backbone then I cannot see how any other organisation could do so.

In the absence of any new money, what has been done so far seems to be a huge waste of effort and cash - not to mention a huge disappointment to the local community (not that that seems to count for much).

>If the combined finances of BT/OR/Staffordshire County Council and BDUK cannot complete the connection to the fibre backbone then I cannot see how any other organisation could do so.

NOTE: The council only pay BT when the FTTP has been delivered, and it MAY (note may as we don't know for sure) that the expected costs have now exceeded the value for money cost cap in the project. This cap is in place to avoid silly levels of spending to reach one property where the person complains a lot.

So if (and big if) this bit of fibre infrastructure is abandoned then the cost has all been on the BT side for now.

In reply to a post by knighton:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Fibre on poles, or just black tubing with a yellow stripe?

The later is fairly cheap tubing can be placed on poles quickly and still needs a fibre splicer and blower to visit at a later date, and if there is 4km of fibre to be done back to the aggregation node then it only needs one problem to delay things, or to hit targets leave the cheap stuff orphaned for a year or two and go do some simpler stuff elsewhere.

Exchange area has a little bit of FTTP available on Hill Lane

Well every pole has a little yellow sticker saying 'Caution: Fibre Overhead' and there are these Fibre Joints every 3 or 4 poles.

Well you can ignore that sticker on the pole, we have FTTP and our pole don't have any stickers on it saying fibre over head.

Paul

I'm not sure if FTTPoD is currently still halted. But if it isn't, is it worth requesting a quote to force the costings to be released, thus those 24 properties can then figure a way forward?

Which would provide an inaccurate desktop quote and cover a single DP, which may only be 1 or 2 of the 24 properties.

It would need a full £250 survey to get any sort of accurate figure, again for a single DP.

More importantly if they aren't connected to an FTTC cab then FTTPoD isn't available and they can't even get a quote.

I advise the OP wait for the BDUK rep to respond.

Edited by j0hn83 (Tue 22-Jan-19 00:15:01)

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More importantly if they aren't connected to an FTTC cab then FTTPoD isn't available and they can't even get a quote.

I advise the OP wait for the BDUK rep to respond.

https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=3... I didn't realise that there wasn't even any fttc there, (well 1 cab done and another later in april). So yup best wait for the bduk team to take things forward

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

>If the combined finances of BT/OR/Staffordshire County Council and BDUK cannot complete the connection to the fibre backbone then I cannot see how any other organisation could do so.

NOTE: The council only pay BT when the FTTP has been delivered, and it MAY (note may as we don't know for sure) that the expected costs have now exceeded the value for money cost cap in the project. This cap is in place to avoid silly levels of spending to reach one property where the person complains a lot.

So if (and big if) this bit of fibre infrastructure is abandoned then the cost has all been on the BT side for now.

Thanks for the clarification.

As an aside, do they really blow fibre through the cabling being used on poles?

We recently had about half a mile of poles erected down our road with 'fibre' only on them. The last pole has a fibre connector and then goes down into the ground (presumably serving the nearby property). The 4th from last pole has another connector, then it's a good 500 metres to the first new pole where the fibre runs across the road to an old pole (with copper and power on too) and emerges from a ground duct (concrete BT manhole beside the pole).

The 'fibre' on these poles consists of a single cable about 5mm diameter (outside dimension) with a yellow stripe. This is coiled on each of the poles with a connector through small loops about 10cm radius.

I had assumed this cable already contains the fibre as blowing through this (and those coils) would seem like a serious challenge. Suffice to say the cable is much narrower than the stuff I see being used in underground chambers. I had assumed it was connectorised cable complete with at least a few fibres and, maybe power for amplifiers etc.

Here's a photo of one of the poles with a connector on - note the use of yellow tape over the cable exit. It looks like they are using a much narrower cable than the connector is designed for but maybe this is normal.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RSnvqMRGoA78hUJi6

Edited by deleted (Tue 22-Jan-19 14:48:22)