FTTP does NOT have power for amplifiers it is a passive network

They do blow fibre down 1 inch diameter black with yellow stripe tubes, around 8 to 12 smaller inner tubes the fibre goes down.

In your case this looks like connectorised fibre roll-out, so fibres in the cable already with Kevlar for strength

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

FTTP does NOT have power for amplifiers it is a passive network

They do blow fibre down 1 inch diameter black with yellow stripe tubes, around 8 to 12 smaller inner tubes the fibre goes down.

In your case this looks like connectorised fibre roll-out, so fibres in the cable already with Kevlar for strength

Thanks Andrew, always good to know.

Any idea how many fibres in one of these cables?
Just wondering if there is any hope of getting a cheaper FTTPoD quote now that this stuff is in place. Desktop quote in non-committal so IF we are still going to be here for a few years and AFTER I've paid for my daughter's wedding I may put in for the full quote. It if is 10s of 1000s then it will still be a non-no though.

You have to be prepared to gamble £250+VAT to find out. The surveyor will find the existing infrastructure and should take it into account - but if there's an upstream problem that may be taken into account too.

You may as well wait until after the wedding though: firstly in case more infrastructure is built in the mean time, but mainly because once you receive your quotation you only have 30 days to pay the full balance for installation. If you don't, then the quote expires, and you'll have to pay the £250+VAT again to order later.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

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They do blow fibre down 1 inch diameter black with yellow stripe tubes
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Mine is approx. a 1/4 of an inch thick. Unless they use smaller tubing for the last leg of blown fibre? (DP>CSP)

https://i.postimg.cc/KYdkvwsf/IMG-00675.jpg

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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

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They do blow fibre down 1 inch diameter black with yellow stripe tubes
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Mine is approx. a 1/4 of an inch thick. Unless they use smaller tubing for the last leg of blown fibre? (DP>CSP)

https://i.postimg.cc/KYdkvwsf/IMG-00675.jpg

I think Andrew was referring to the tubing up the phone pole between the DP and Manifold.

Now the tubing from the manifold to my home and then to the CSP, yeah sure that is very thin tubing, which they also blew the 4 very small fibres through.

Paul

Ah yes, final drop for an individual is thinner, I was referring to the fibre tubing that links the fibre bottle manifold with the splitter

If the original plan was to include several hundred metres of mole ploughed duct in the verge and this was later deemed unsuitable, then they may be looking at a very large cost for excavating the adjacent road.
They may have suspended the project until a finance decision is made either way, so it may still be up in the air if that is why it seems to have stopped.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

You may as well wait until after the wedding though: firstly in case more infrastructure is built in the mean time, but mainly because once you receive your quotation you only have 30 days to pay the full balance for installation. If you don't, then the quote expires, and you'll have to pay the £250+VAT again to order later.

There was someone who ordered the £250 survey posted recently that you have actually ordered the installation at the time of ordering the full survey, and that the thirty days is to allow you to reject it! Another similar one replied soon after, confirming that. It doesn't just "expire".

Edit: Subsequent posts seem to prove I misunderstood or mis-remember the ones I referred to. I shall have to stop being lazy, and find my references next time. I usually do find them .

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 23-Jan-19 09:07:02)

That's true but I would assume not paying the balance has the same effect. They won't just go ahead and you will be due them a fortune.

I think the point being made was more that if you choose not to go ahead in the 30 days and cancel the order then the survey expires and the £250 would need paid again with any subsequent order.

* At the time you pay the £250 (*), you are placing a conditional order for installation of service
* The survey goes ahead, and you are told what the confirmed cost will be
* From that point you have 30 days to pay the balance to proceed (**)
* If you don't, the order is cancelled and the £250 is non-refundable
* If you place an order again later, the whole process starts from the top. You pay the £250 again, and the confirmed cost could be lower or higher.

(*) You pay this to the service provider. They in turn pay the Openreach survey and design charge of £244.52 if the order does not proceed.

(**) It's unclear to me if this money is paid immediately to Openreach at this stage, or if the service provider sits on it until completion.