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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 23-Jan-19 09:09:43
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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-19 10:04:58
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In reply to a post by andyhurley:
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
FTTP does NOT have power for amplifiers it is a passive network

They do blow fibre down 1 inch diameter black with yellow stripe tubes, around 8 to 12 smaller inner tubes the fibre goes down.

In your case this looks like connectorised fibre roll-out, so fibres in the cable already with Kevlar for strength


Thanks Andrew, always good to know.

Any idea how many fibres in one of these cables?
Just wondering if there is any hope of getting a cheaper FTTPoD quote now that this stuff is in place. Desktop quote in non-committal so IF we are still going to be here for a few years and AFTER I've paid for my daughter's wedding I may put in for the full quote. It if is 10s of 1000s then it will still be a non-no though.


Connectorised is the way they go now - as it need far less trained engineers to install it (plug and play!) They still do some of the manually spliced cables as the connectorised is limited to 100m iirc. (My Fttp is longer and had to be done manually which caused some hastle finding someone who could do it)

The cables vary. In the ducts/polls they can be 72-fibre (5mm) where space is limited the standard 96 @ 7mm or up to 276 fibres iirc.

Afaik the standard home cable (CSP) is 4 strands. I know they used the wrong cable on mine and its far more though it makes no real difference as they only blow one obviously.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 23-Jan-19 10:22:36
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The longest standard connectorised cables are 160m, but there are 300m ones available on special order.


p.s. It�s �poles� not polls. smile


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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-19 10:33:51
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The longest standard connectorised cables are 160m, but there are 300m ones available on special order.


p.s. It�s �poles� not polls. smile


Must be new; BT/ORs (7/13/2018) Fibre handbook still only lists (5m, 20m, 30m, 50m, 100m)

I've not had a cuppa yet this morning I could 'correct all' anything wrong!

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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-19 10:39:42
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Interesting, certainly one leg of the new poles section on our road is more than 300m, the last 4 poles (between two connectors) is probably 160m but the section before that is well over 300m, measuring on google maps makes it about 450m and that's without allowing for distance up and down poles at each end.

Maybe I've just missed another connector but if so it is well hidden.
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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-19 10:46:20
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In reply to a post by andyhurley:
Interesting, certainly one leg of the new poles section on our road is more than 300m, the last 4 poles (between two connectors) is probably 160m but the section before that is well over 300m, measuring on google maps makes it about 450m and that's without allowing for distance up and down poles at each end.

Maybe I've just missed another connector but if so it is well hidden.


As I said this is not max cable length just pre-connectorised length. So you could/can already run long lengths but you have to splice them.
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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-19 10:58:00
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Yes, but didn't we say the Kevlar reinforced cables with fibre already in only came in connectorised form?

Obviously if they come on arbitrary length sections without the connectors then that is different but then it begs the question why they bothered putting a connector unit on a pole 100 odd metres back from the end of the run when there is nothing there (see the picture posted earlier).
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(deleted) Wed 23-Jan-19 11:12:25
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In reply to a post by andyhurley:
Yes, but didn't we say the Kevlar reinforced cables with fibre already in only came in connectorised form?

Obviously if they come on arbitrary length sections without the connectors then that is different but then it begs the question why they bothered putting a connector unit on a pole 100 odd metres back from the end of the run when there is nothing there (see the picture posted earlier).


You can get kevlar/aramid in generic cable. I'd usually expect generic cable up to the last 100m (160 perhaps if that is now available to OR in quantity) and then connectorised cable from there to properties.

Beyond that its hard to be sure without a better understanding on the layout.
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(staff) Wed 23-Jan-19 12:07:34
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It does not have to have a connector on each end....i.e. one end can be open ready for cleaving and splicing

The Kevlar is thin strands that can be cut but give support and strength with minimal weight and cross section

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 23-Jan-19 12:59:16
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The max length I was referring to was that of the pre-made connectorised kits from the CBT to ONT.

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