In reply to a post by gary333:

Is there a way to find out which 12 properties are 'passed' to see if they would like to co-order?

Did you get the quote through Cerberus - just ask them and OR should provide you with the list. Bear in mind that any official co-orders will only benefit from a £500 voucher which is outweighed by the increased 12 month £100+vat cost. You would be better to organise a "donation" from your neighbour as they would be able to order native FTTP after your installation.

Well after four weeks stuck in the doldrums I have some action.

The doldrums - four weeks of waiting for blowers, or waiting for customer to complete his works (I did them ages ago), or waiting for fibre to be ordered.

The action - Single BT van spotted in lane this morning by OH on school run. Went to see what was happening and it was the Openreach Project Manager. Whoopee. Had a good chat and he is on the case to move it forward. He walked my duct line, and reviewed and approved internal locations, and access.

- Has already chased for groundwork team to come and drill the ground box to connect my 170m of duct to the ground box.
- Is meeting the blowers on relevant section this morning to review.
- Suggested I might be better with a 4-port ONT given the number of properties we have he could see we might end up with multiple services.
- Apparently the new connecterised cables only have a single fibre in them. 300m one on order as my duct is 170m and smaller one is 150m! Will have to coil 130m of duct in ground box presumably.
- Told me my order required 5 nodes to be built on route to property from the exchange and first one is complete. (I know everyone says it doesn't come from the exchange but it is what they all say).

He is pushing to get completed asap, and even gave me his contact details.

Dave

In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

- Apparently the new connecterised cables only have a single fibre in them. 300m one on order as my duct is 170m and smaller one is 150m! Will have to coil 130m of duct in ground box presumably.

It might be too late now but i would politely ask the Openreach manager if they can instead blow the fibre from the DP to your premises - they sometimes do this if the distance is greater than 150-160m to the DP and as an alternative to using the special extra long connectorised cables. Reason being that you would get 4 fibre strands blown to your property with 3 strands kept as spares. As each strand supports at least 4 FTTP lines/services, it means extra FTTP services can be added relatively easily without Openreach having to run extra fibre(s) to the DP.

This is the Customer Splice Point (CSP) installed outside my home with the 4 fibre strands blown into it:

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In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

- Told me my order required 5 nodes to be built on route to property from the exchange and first one is complete. (I know everyone says it doesn't come from the exchange but it is what they all say).

It might be that your nearest agg node is outside the exchange (happens in rural areas) hence why they keep saying your line is coming from the exchange.

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

- Told me my order required 5 nodes to be built on route to property from the exchange and first one is complete. (I know everyone says it doesn't come from the exchange but it is what they all say).

It might be that your nearest agg node is outside the exchange (happens in rural areas) hence why they keep saying your line is coming from the exchange.

Are the nodes they are adding Agg Nodes? Have they elected to roll out a tonne of stuff in conjunction with my job? I don't mind if they have. I agreed the price, if they stick to it then they can anything they like?

In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

- Told me my order required 5 nodes to be built on route to property from the exchange and first one is complete. (I know everyone says it doesn't come from the exchange but it is what they all say).

It might be that your nearest agg node is outside the exchange (happens in rural areas) hence why they keep saying your line is coming from the exchange.

Are the nodes they are adding Agg Nodes? Have they elected to roll out a tonne of stuff in conjunction with my job? I don't mind if they have. I agreed the price, if they stick to it then they can anything they like?

No idea, but your build is on a mutually agreed fixed price basis so any extra work done by Openreach will be at their own cost.

Edited by deleted (Thu 31-Jan-19 13:22:55)

In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

Are the nodes they are adding Agg Nodes?

My understanding (which is very very limited to say the least and only what I have learnt on here) is there are a number of other types of node in additional to aggregation like primary splitter, splitter DP, track joint so some of these may make up your 5 nodes. Someone with the expertise will probably be able to advise more.

Edited by deleted (Thu 31-Jan-19 13:53:12)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

Are the nodes they are adding Agg Nodes?

My understanding (which is very very limited to say the least and only what I have learnt on here) is there are a number of other types of node in additional to aggregation like primary splitter, splitter DP, track joint so some of these may make up your 5 nodes. Someone with the expertise will probably be able to advise more.

Thanks, makes sense. the only one I had come across was an Agg node. Presumably some form of joint somewhere.

Thanks
Dave

Hi baby_frogmella

I know you always say if the fibre run is long they may blown the fibres instead of using a connectorised cable but does anyone know if they mix and match these on the same deployment? e.g. for neighbouring properties some are blown and some have connectorised cables (depending on distance)? I think it would be unlikely but interest to know if they do.

In reply to a post by dect:

Hi baby_frogmella

I know you always say if the fibre run is long they may blown the fibres instead of using a connectorised cable but does anyone know if they mix and match these on the same deployment? e.g. for neighbouring properties some are blown and some have connectorised cables (depending on distance)? I think it would be unlikely but interest to know if they do.

No idea mate, I guess it depends if the same fibre DP supports both connectorized & blown fibre. I think that's one for Zarjaz to answer

Well my update today (and not via Cereberus) is as follows:

What's black, thin and comes out of a grey duct in the greenhouse outside the office/server room. A fibre - whoopee!

Same engineer is returning Monday to complete the outside connection and then the internal connection onto an old four port ONT, if I want multiple services. He has couple of joints to test on the route same day. So physically I should be complete by Monday pm. Then just need the back office bits sorted.

Connectorised CBT (4-port) mounted on frame in ground box at end of drive, then connectorised cable pulled to property but no connector on the property end, this is just cable. Whether they cut connector off for house end because he had a 320m fibre and only a 170m run I can't comment as I didn't see this part.

Now must make the decision on router to upgrade from Draytek 2860 as the firewall will only really handle 200MB. We have 9 UniFi APs so a USP Pro (which a lot of people hate) or a PFSense.

Tick Tock nearly there.