In reply to a post by brookheather:

In reply to a post by Garlic:

In reply to a post by brookheather:

The OR guys who cleared the duct were confused by the fibre cable - they said it was a 36 fibre cable not the smaller cable that would go to an individual house. When the cablers were here they measured out enough length to reach the back of my house where the ONT will be installed so they were expecting this 36 fibre cable to run straight to my ONT. Surely there will need to be a CBT installed somewhere nearby and a smaller fibre cable run to my house?

They did that with mine. But as they'd already buried it it was too late!

So they just connected one of the fibre strands in the 36 strand cable? Did they not install a CBT then - if not then did your neighbours not get native FTTP either?

No CBT. One cable just to me. My nearest neighbours are about 500-600yrds on the cable route. They have their own cable. The neighbours about 1+ mile away may have a CBT - there are 5 or so houses there.

I got the distinct impression that the works team were deployed so far away from their base that they just used what they had as it was just too much hassle to get anything else. (They covered the fibre down the pole on the main road hedge which is flailed twice a year with a plastic cover!!)

Edited by deleted (Tue 05-Feb-19 15:36:25)

I started the ball rolling and just got the desktop survey back.

23/01/2019 - Applied for Desktop Survey
07/02/2019 - Desktop Survey recieved - £11800
07/02/2019 - Request Full Survey

Estimated Build Cost: £11,800.00 ex VAT
Number of premises passed for FTTP: 18
Openreach estimate that the distance to the fibre aggregation node serving your premises is 400 - 599m.

I paid the £250 for the full survey, so we'll see how it goes. Hopefully it'll come down in price. I suspect the 18 properties are coming through the estate from the same way my current FTTC cabinet does.

When installing FTTP does it have to come fully via ducts underground? Can't it come from post to post part of the way, or does it only come out of the ground at the final post before my house?

No it doesn't have to come underground.

If your existing copper line is from a pole then the fibre will likely come on the same pole(s).

The 18 properties are those closest to you, who share the same copper DP.

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 07-Feb-19 11:46:40)

In reply to a post by bowdon:

When installing FTTP does it have to come fully via ducts underground? Can't it come from post to post part of the way, or does it only come out of the ground at the final post before my house?

It depends on the existing Openreach infrastructure in your area - for obvious reasons Openreach will always try to make use of their existing infrastrucre first.

If your property isn't that old then its very likely everything will be in u/g ducts in your area which means the fibre will also come via duct. My home isn't that old (built in late 2000s) with not an o/h pole in sight and the fibre comes u/g all the way from the agg node.

I believe the most common configuration is that a DP pole is fed from underground - and it sounds like this is the case for your copper connection.

They would try to maintain that if possible, because the backhaul is better protected that way leaving only the aerial drop exposed, but they *can* string fibre from pole to pole if they choose to.

In reply to a post by bowdon:

When installing FTTP does it have to come fully via ducts underground? Can't it come from post to post part of the way, or does it only come out of the ground at the final post before my house?

Its worth noting that the maximum fibre span between two poles is smaller than for existing copper cables. If the span is too large infill poles are required to help achieve the span limit.

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Its worth noting that the maximum fibre span between two poles is smaller than for existing copper cables. If the span is too large infill poles are required to help achieve the span limit.

It'll be interesting how they do it.

Does anyone know how long it takes for the OR survey to be done? I noticed on the information pages it kept mentioning 6 weeks. Is that about right or can it happen sooner or later than that on average?

In reply to a post by bowdon:

Does anyone know how long it takes for the OR survey to be done? I noticed on the information pages it kept mentioning 6 weeks. Is that about right or can it happen sooner or later than that on average?

Both: it sounds about right for the average, and it can happen sooner or later than that for individual installs.

For me it was 11 weeks from placing the order until the survey took place - this includes an initial 4 week delay because of a system problem preventing the order being accepted. Then it was another 4 weeks from the survey being done to getting the quote back.

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In reply to a post by Alvintc:

I've requested my full survey.
Timeline:
2/10/18 - Requested desktop survey (Cerberus)
18/10/18 - Desktop survey £15,600.00 (ex. VAT)
23/10/18 - Full survey requested

25/1/19 - Quote received: £6,838.37 (+ VAT)

Labour £4,446.39
Stores £2,788.98
Civils £408.00
BT Connection Charge £495.00

Deductions :
-£1,050.00 (houses passed)
-£250.00 (survey fee)

Proceeding!!

Openreach advised that underground cabling estimate has now been raised with an estimated completion date of 22/02/19.

Dear All,
I just wanted to give you my update as i think it is well worth a read. In October 2018 i requested a desktop quote for FTTPoD.

The area is Totteridge, in High Wycombe.

The first response is a desktop quote which is super expensive.

We have now received the estimate of the charges from BT. These are detailed below.
Estimated Build Cost: £17,100.00 ex VAT
The build charge includes the estimate for the work and materials required to deliver the service. It also includes the connection charge.
Number of premises passed for FTTP: 5


I have followed it up with a full quote, which i am expecting within a week, however here is the twist I also got a letter from "Virgin Media" who said they want to expand into the area I live. I am wondering if there is some back handling of my data and someone has leaked information to Virgin Media that someone in my area is looking at FTTPoD and this raised their interest.

Mind you that 3 houses down they are able to get G.Fast however i am just a bit to far away. Few houses down the road is able to get 145 Mbit down. I would have been ok with this but i am on a 46Mbit right now with BT.

I keep you all posted on this as i get the final quote.

Thanx
Feejus