Ah ok. Thanks

You're right in what you say Philip.

My neighbours just got Sky Fibre, and when talking my dad mentioned to him that I'm thinking of paying for full fibre. The neighbour thought he'd bought fibre.

It is amazing how much mis-selling is going on in the broadband industry. But because at one time it suited all the ISP's nobody pulled each other up about it.

As for marketing FTTP, high speeds, reliability, less things can go wrong, and future-proof. Once a person makes the jump they are ready for the future.

I think everyone is waiting for the networks to be built. That's the only hold up.

It's a good job CityFibre arrived on the scene, or we'd still be getting the old line "Well what do you need all that speed for".. as the moth balls gather on the copper lines

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

The forced price increase of the FTTP 40/10 service in areas where FTTC 40/10 is available from Ofcom says all you need to know about getting a remove copper switch to fibre programme rolling, i.e. due to aims of encouraging multiple infrastructure platforms a rip out is some years away.

That's very disappointing to learn. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Anything between 78.6 and 65.9 on the low on VDSL Range Clean A will get guaranteed G.fast.

No; you don't get "guaranteed" G.fast based on your VDSL speed. You get G.fast availability based on what the checker says is available.

However as a rule-of-thumb, if you get anything less than a full 80 on VDSL your chances of getting G.fast are probably low.

I persume that would be the case however Openreach seem adamant in my case that I can get g.fast and I'd say I'm around 300-350m from the cabinet itself and I currently get around 70-65Mbps on VDSL.

I'll have no idea on this since I was quoted that g.fast will go live at the summer since the pods recently started appearing last week.

By all means take it, but:

1. Make sure you get a speed guarantee, i.e. that they will let you back onto VDSL at no penalty if your line doesn't achieve a consistent 100M+

2. Beware that you may be swapping a solid 70M line for a flakey 100M line - i.e. more dropouts / retrains.

3. Is upload speed important to you? At such an extreme distance, it's quite likely that you will get a *lower* upload speed on G.fast than you currently get on VDSL.

In reply to a post by supertourinvec:

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Anything between 78.6 and 65.9 on the low on VDSL Range Clean A will get guaranteed G.fast.

No; you don't get "guaranteed" G.fast based on your VDSL speed. You get G.fast availability based on what the checker says is available.

However as a rule-of-thumb, if you get anything less than a full 80 on VDSL your chances of getting G.fast are probably low.

I persume that would be the case however Openreach seem adamant in my case that I can get g.fast and I'd say I'm around 300-350m from the cabinet itself and I currently get around 70-65Mbps on VDSL.

I'll have no idea on this since I was quoted that g.fast will go live at the summer since the pods recently started appearing last week.

I'm 309M from the cab, had full speed 80-20 VDSL.

Cab is enabled, no G.fast service to me, or anyone unless they are about 10 houses away from the cab (I can see the cab from my house!).

This whole rollout is just a waste of money and time.

Checker results
VDSL Range A (Clean) 80 62.5 20 19 56.9 Available --
VDSL Range B (Impacted) 80 60 20 19 55 Available --

Edited by Philce (Wed 20-Mar-19 20:33:34)

Based on my experience I'd say leave it the hell alone. I'm going to call them on Tuesday which will probably be a stressful experience. It's been significantly more stable the last couple of days but I'm only getting 10mb upload when I used to get 16mb. I'd quite happily trade that 100mb down to 80mb to get that upload back, along with another tenner a month in my pocket!