I'm not aware of any evidence that says most people think/mean BT Retail when referring to just BT

Ok, just had a look at the Openreach community fibre.

Looks a bit better, in so much you aren't tied to a an FTTPoD contract for the first twelve months.

A few quick questions..

Has anyone gone down this route?

Did the cost work out cheaper than FTTPoD installation?

Is the 'ballpark' figure they quote, the same as the high initial desktop quotes provided by Cerebus?

I understand from Cerebus, that once an order has been put in for the survey, anyone pulling out after the proper quotation stage, renders the whole order cancelled, and those remaining would have to start again. Is this the same with the OR community project?

Thanks guys.

In reply to a post by Alucidnation:

Ok, just had a look at the Openreach community fibre.

Looks a bit better, in so much you aren't tied to a an FTTPoD contract for the first twelve months.

A few quick questions..

Has anyone gone down this route?

Did the cost work out cheaper than FTTPoD installation?

Is the 'ballpark' figure they quote, the same as the high initial desktop quotes provided by Cerebus?

I understand from Cerebus, that once an order has been put in for the survey, anyone pulling out after the proper quotation stage, renders the whole order cancelled, and those remaining would have to start again. Is this the same with the OR community project?

Thanks guys.

The desktop quote is done at a DP level (equivalent to a copper DP) so if you and your willing neighbours are all on the same DP then the quote would be for just the one DP. As the CFP is done at a community level you don't have the issue of multiple orders as the community pays in two instalments one when the contract is signed and one when the work is done (you do need to setup a community interest company to collect the money and pay it to BT) The money you pay is considered a contribution to the cost as BT pays as well although they never reveal what they pay but I wouldn't expect the community contribution to be more than FTTPoD.

You may find the Community Fibre quote is considerably more expensive than the lone FTTPoD quote, as Openreach would most likely bring FTTP to most of your street/area, ie a lot more properties than just your & your neighbour even though it would be just 2 of you funding it. Hence the term "community". However until you see the actual figures from Openreach its just speculation.

Just to re-iterate my earlier point: FTTPoD is really intended for a single/lone install. Any nearby properties which get 'free' (native) FTTP as a result is purely down to Openreach's discretion, ie Openreach aren't contractually obliged to supply neighbouring premises with native FTTP on the back of a single order.

Edited by deleted (Thu 21-Mar-19 08:38:31)

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

You may find the Community Fibre quote is considerably more expensive than the lone FTTPoD quote

I don't believe the cost would be more, I have been told by a contact in the CFP department that additional urban properties added would be out weighed by the additional contribution for each property made by BT, but the only way to find out is when someone gets a quote for FTTPoD and CFP

In reply to a post by dect:

the only way to find out is when someone gets a quote for FTTPoD and CFP

+1

Btw, is the CFP quote based on a Openreach site survey or on a desktop model? If the latter, is the cost liable to change after a site survey? (eg ECCs)

I'm still waiting for my installation date but just noticed this morning that my line has changed to WBC FTTP so hopefully installation will be very soon.

WBC FTTP Upto 1000 Upto 220 -- Available 1 Stage

My neighbours are also showing WBC FTTP except FTTP Install Process shows as KCI2 Assure.

Interestingly the houses enabled for FTTP doesn't exactly match the premises passed in the original survey - one more house to the left and one less house to the right are now enabled.

Edited by brookheather (Thu 21-Mar-19 10:18:36)

Nice, that's more progress than mine. The neighbors on the same DP are still showing as FTTP on Demand when I check a few random addresses. No further updates from Openreach yet, sadly.

In reply to a post by brookheather:

I'm still waiting for my installation date but just noticed this morning that my line has changed to WBC FTTP so hopefully installation will be very soon.

WBC FTTP Upto 1000 Upto 220 -- Available 1 Stage

My neighbours are also showing WBC FTTP except FTTP Install Process shows as KCI2 Assure.

Interestingly the houses enabled for FTTP doesn't exactly match the premises passed in the original survey - one more house to the left and one less house to the right are now enabled.

Great news! Matter of weeks now, rather than months/years. I hope your neighbours appreciate how lucky they are

In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:

is the CFP quote based on a Openreach site survey or on a desktop model? If the latter, is the cost liable to change after a site survey? (eg ECCs)

For all CFP's a desktop quote is done, If Openreach have good records they will sometimes offer a fixed prices job based on that desktop quote and sometimes its subject to ECC's, if their records are bad they also do a survey before contracts are signed.