In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

Agreed, but I wouldn't have said "because for many users now it's how they consume TV." a year ago. We would get a games console now and again and an Echo would be a rare surprise on the network. However the frequency of these things appearing has somewhat shot up. We are a rural destination, and only have FTTPoD because we were in a position to drop £10k on it, few other small holiday complexes have it, so I suppose I better shout about it and get the benefit.

Are you sure that is not a symptom of not having a suitable internet connection to support it? I can't imagine people are more likely to be bringing them more often than prior to getting your FTTP connection given the from memory relatively short time it has been active. More likely they brought them, tried them out found they didn't work well and gave up if you ask me.

I would however make sure you make a fuss about having great internet speeds if it was me. My sister started letting her old flat out AirBnB last year and was getting low take up till see got some internet installed. People just expect it these days.

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In reply to a post by F00tS0re:

Agreed, but I wouldn't have said "because for many users now it's how they consume TV." a year ago. We would get a games console now and again and an Echo would be a rare surprise on the network. However the frequency of these things appearing has somewhat shot up. We are a rural destination, and only have FTTPoD because we were in a position to drop £10k on it, few other small holiday complexes have it, so I suppose I better shout about it and get the benefit.

Are you sure that is not a symptom of not having a suitable internet connection to support it? I can't imagine people are more likely to be bringing them more often than prior to getting your FTTP connection given the from memory relatively short time it has been active. More likely they brought them, tried them out found they didn't work well and gave up if you ask me.

I would however make sure you make a fuss about having great internet speeds if it was me. My sister started letting her old flat out AirBnB last year and was getting low take up till see got some internet installed. People just expect it these days.

Would have still seen them on the network, they would be unlikely to have taken them off the network. We did have 4Mbps and 15Mbps on radio, so streaming/gaming was possible, just not all guests at the same time. And the change hasn't been night and day. But over the last 12-months they have popped up more & more often.

You may have likely streamed for ages, but then you are on a broadband technical forum, so ahead of the curve. The population is always changing, and kids now stream stuff constantly, those kids are rapidly turning into older-teens/adults and don't know life before streaming. I would suggest that streaming is probably moving from innovator/early adopter into main take-up phase. Overall usage likely to take a big jump.

Just an update on where I am regarding FTTP on Demand.

After waiting several weeks due to a stop on new orders, Cerberus put through the order a couple of weeks ago, and a survey has now taken place.

It took him a couple of hours at my end to check everything out, however he was in and around the street for most of the day and was surveying other roads off mine, which appear unconnected to my potential order, as these streets are not on the route back to the aggregation point and in opposite directions to each other. He was also spotted here the following day as well but I didn�t get chance to speak to him.

Interestingly some white markings have been sprayed around some telegraph poles further down the street, and a pre-planning notice has been posted on a pole to say a new pole will be erected. For context, the street I�m on is a dead end with 70s built houses at the start, with a few houses at the end built later in the late 80s where I am, these newer edition houses are all underground telephone cable, the 70s houses are pole fed, and it�s further down the street the notice was posted which is on the route to the aggregation node which happens to be at the fibre cabinet.

So, I�m not sure what is going on, and as I haven�t been quoted the build costs yet, would they be marking up and putting up pre-planning notices for my FTTP on Demand order that isn�t confirmed?

Anyway, just a case of waiting to see what the confirmed build costs are now.

Anyone enlighten me on what a �duct overlay� is? Apparently this is what the un-unblockable duct outside our house now needs.

In reply to a post by E300:

would they be marking up and putting up pre-planning notices for my FTTP on Demand order that isn�t confirmed?

I'd say that's unlikely. It could just be normal replacement of dangerous/decayed poles.

You *might* be very lucky and there's some FTTP upgrade already going on, in which case you'll find this out from the survey results.

New cable duct

In reply to a post by E300:

Interestingly some white markings have been sprayed around some telegraph poles further down the street, and a pre-planning notice has been posted on a pole to say a new pole will be erected. For context, the street I�m on is a dead end with 70s built houses at the start, with a few houses at the end built later in the late 80s where I am, these newer edition houses are all underground telephone cable, the 70s houses are pole fed, and it�s further down the street the notice was posted which is on the route to the aggregation node which happens to be at the fibre cabinet.

So, I�m not sure what is going on, and as I haven�t been quoted the build costs yet, would they be marking up and putting up pre-planning notices for my FTTP on Demand order that isn�t confirmed?

Could simply be that he has marked it up incase you proceed with the order. That way he does not have to come out again and mark it up if you do.

Alternatively Openreach might have finally smelt the coffee and figure if you do go ahead and they are pulling fibre down the street to your house then it would be monumentally stupid not to enable the poles as they do so. Especially if speeds are poor in the street resulting in decent take up.

So wonder if anyone has come across my experience with the commmunity fibre team at Openreach

requested a quote last year and was given an initial quote for £14k for 93 homes, now the full survey has been done it's come back at £29k, reason they say;

"I�ve done some digging, looks like 82 of the 115 premises are connected to cabinet 38 that is already FTTC enabled and can currently achieve speeds of over 30Mbps. This then falls into a situation called �Overbuild� i.e. our commercial model on FTTC was a payback period f 15-years and because we have not seen the ROI on this investment our contribution to the FTTP solution is greatly reduced, hence why the gap cost is now £29,542.00."

Very frustrating as the initial quote was really achievable especially with the voucher scheme, but now, no chance

Edited by Damo_clover (Fri 03-May-19 13:23:35)

In reply to a post by Damo_clover:

requested a quote last year and was given an initial quote for £14k for 93 homes, now the full survey has been done it's come back at £29k

I know its not what you want to hear but £29k for 93 properties is still a really good price, I believe the average price per property is normally around £1.5k (via CFP) which would make it around £140k

In reply to a post by jabuzzard:

In reply to a post by E300:

Interestingly some white markings have been sprayed around some telegraph poles further down the street, and a pre-planning notice has been posted on a pole to say a new pole will be erected. For context, the street I�m on is a dead end with 70s built houses at the start, with a few houses at the end built later in the late 80s where I am, these newer edition houses are all underground telephone cable, the 70s houses are pole fed, and it�s further down the street the notice was posted which is on the route to the aggregation node which happens to be at the fibre cabinet.

So, I�m not sure what is going on, and as I haven�t been quoted the build costs yet, would they be marking up and putting up pre-planning notices for my FTTP on Demand order that isn�t confirmed?

Could simply be that he has marked it up incase you proceed with the order. That way he does not have to come out again and mark it up if you do.

Alternatively Openreach might have finally smelt the coffee and figure if you do go ahead and they are pulling fibre down the street to your house then it would be monumentally stupid not to enable the poles as they do so. Especially if speeds are poor in the street resulting in decent take up.

Or as simple as the surveyor noting the pole is out of date and needs a survey and blatantly won't pass.