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Standard User E300
(newbie) Sat 04-May-19 09:53:12
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 4


[re: F00tS0re] [link to this post]
 
I�ve now noticed another street that comes off at a right angle to mine that is older properties that are overhead telephone cables also has 2 poles both with pre-planning notices saying new poles to go up opposite them on the other side of the street. So that�s 3 new telegraph poles as a result of my FTTPoD survey. The notices give no reason as to why the new posts are going up.

I wonder if the span of wire is too long and out of spec and it�s just been spotted now? The poles on one side feed both sides of the street and I guess some spans are up to 40 metres although it�s probably been that way for 50+ years. Could it be it is for FTTP and the fibre span from pole to house can�t go as far, so they need the extra poles to serve both sides of the street?

I�ll keep on eye out on the councils planning site and roadworks.org to see if anything gets posted there, it may have a bit more info to the reason.

As I�ve not had a confirmed build cost yet, let alone given the go ahead, I�m surprised to see these notices go up if they are related to me bringing fibre past those roads. Still they are pre-planning notices so maybe the surveyor is just trying to speed things up by giving people the notice required early on, and if I don�t go ahead, neither do the new poles.

It kind of makes sense to enable more properties with my FTTP order if the work isn�t too much, as long as I�m not paying for it smile
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 05-May-19 14:46:53
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[re: E300] [link to this post]
 
It's doesn't sound unusual that when tasked to survey a specific area OpenReach are taking the time to survey a slightly wider area.

Common sense says it's more efficient to have the surveyor do a whole days work covering the whole area rather than travel to your street and do an hours work then return to base.

The fact poles not on your FTTPoD route are marked as needing replaced should not be of any concern and will not be related to your order. Even the local engineer is to report faulty poles as needing checked/replaced so a surveyor doing this should be no surprise.

OpenReach may be looking to enable a slightly wider area for FTTP along with the work for your FTTPoD order. This additional work would not be paid for by you.

There's also the possibility they could recommend you withdraw your order as after the survey they have decided to cover the area with FTTP at their own cost.

Either way you shouldn't be concerned that the surveyor did more than just your route.
There are a number of members her who have had similar experiences and is just common sense imo.
Standard User E300
(newbie) Sun 05-May-19 16:30:15
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[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by j0hn83:
It's doesn't sound unusual that when tasked to survey a specific area OpenReach are taking the time to survey a slightly wider area.

Common sense says it's more efficient to have the surveyor do a whole days work covering the whole area rather than travel to your street and do an hours work then return to base.

The fact poles not on your FTTPoD route are marked as needing replaced should not be of any concern and will not be related to your order. Even the local engineer is to report faulty poles as needing checked/replaced so a surveyor doing this should be no surprise.

OpenReach may be looking to enable a slightly wider area for FTTP along with the work for your FTTPoD order. This additional work would not be paid for by you.

There's also the possibility they could recommend you withdraw your order as after the survey they have decided to cover the area with FTTP at their own cost.

Either way you shouldn't be concerned that the surveyor did more than just your route.
There are a number of members her who have had similar experiences and is just common sense imo.


Many thanks for the response.

Just to say, the poles are not replacements, they are additional to what is there already. The notices say things like "New pole 5 metres to the left of this pole on the opposite side of the road", hence I guess it is why it needs a planning notice, a replacement pole presumably would not?

I wouldn't say I am concerned, more interested in what was happening, and why it was deemed necessary all of a sudden to need additional poles on those streets. I can only think they must be getting FTTP on the back of my order then, and if Openreach did turn around and say no charge we are doing those streets anyway then fantastic news.

I'll update when I've had details of the survey back.


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Standard User candlerb
(committed) Sun 05-May-19 18:33:38
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[re: E300] [link to this post]
 
It's also possible the surveyor found the existing poles were overloaded, hence new ones required to fix this problem.
Standard User Alucidnation
(member) Tue 07-May-19 13:22:55
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Hi Guys,

Do I need to have a standard phone line as well with FTTPoD?

Never use our current one, it's only there for broadband.

Cheers
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 07-May-19 13:41:34
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Hi

In reply to a post by Alucidnation:
Hi Guys,

Do I need to have a standard phone line as well with FTTPoD?

Never use our current one, it's only there for broadband.

Cheers


No you don't. Usually the FTTP on Demand will be installed leaving your phone line/service unchanged, so if you don't want it anymore, you just tell your phone provider you want to cancel. The safest thing is not to cancel until you have FTTP up and running, so you aren't left without Internet.

Regards

Phil
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 07-May-19 13:50:13
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My FTTC/FTTPoD/G.FAST are available does this mean FTTPoD will be lots cheaper now or make no difference?
Standard User Ixel
(committed) Tue 07-May-19 13:57:59
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It depends on where the aggregation node is, and I highly doubt g.fast availability will change this. More than likely the cost will be the same.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 07-May-19 13:59:57
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Hi

In reply to a post by adslmax:
My FTTC/FTTPoD/G.FAST are available does this mean FTTPoD will be lots cheaper now or make no difference?


It makes no difference except for the fact you can enquire about FTTPoD and should be able to order it.

What makes the difference is how far away the aggregation node is from you, and this isn't always near your fibre cabinet, plus how hard the job likely is to get the fibre from the node to you.

You will only know the true price by getting a survey done for £250 + VAT, a desktop survey is free but it isn't what you will pay, but can give you an indicator.

Regards

Phil
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 07-May-19 14:00:29
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How to find out where is my nearer aggregation node are? Will openreach tell me this if I emailed them.
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