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(deleted) Mon 13-May-19 13:51:00
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 4


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Hi

In reply to a post by wifigeek:
joining the party

- 600-800m to aggr node
- 'unknown' install and survey required (£250)
- survey requested (I live on an estate that is FTTC only; estate opposite me has FTTP; all manholes etc are in place and run in that general direction)

someone came out today; and interestingly according to his data i would be served from an aggr node that is not at all where i expected - so we will see how it goes.


You can't make any guesses or conclusions unfortunately from the fact an estate next to you has FTTP. The same estate will connect back to an aggregation node, maybe the same one you need to, i.e. they can't just go from the estate to you, it has to be from an aggregation node to you.

Ideally, if the aggregation node is very near or at your FTTC cabinet, that's the better option, as generally the fibre cable then just follow the same route as your telephone cable, using existing ducting or overhead poles, if it's somewhere else, that means it needs a new route built from there to you, which often entails road closures and laying all new ducting which equals more expense. This is why we see quotes often having little relationship to the aggregation node distance, it's more about the route to get to you.

Fingers crossed it works out all okay.

Regards

Phil
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(deleted) Mon 13-May-19 15:14:38
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 4


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Quick question (probably answered before...apologies)

Is the fibre agg node likely to situated at the cabinet where the g.fast cabinet has been added recently?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 13-May-19 15:31:19
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In reply to a post by donkay:
Quick question (probably answered before...apologies)

Is the fibre agg node likely to situated at the cabinet where the g.fast cabinet has been added recently?
The G.Fast addon to the PCP is fed fibre from the associated FTTC cabinet that was already there. The aggregation node is the one feeding that cabinet. No additional node is added for the G.Fast. (At least, normally).

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-May-19 15:58:25
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In reply to a post by donkay:
Quick question (probably answered before...apologies)

Is the fibre agg node likely to situated at the cabinet where the g.fast cabinet has been added recently?


It's more likely it isn't situated at your FTTC cabinet.

Typically (though not always) an Aggregation Node serves 3 or 4 FTTC cabinets.
So your Agg Node could be at your FTTC cabinet but it could also be next to the other 2 or 3 FTTC cabinets that it serves.

They aren't always right next to 1 of the cabinets they serve though. They can be placed anywhere inbetween them.
My Agg Node is roughly half way between my PCP and the next PCP it serves.

The existence or lack of G.Fast has zero bearing on Aggregation Nodes. It won't have any impact on price or difficulty too install FTTPoD.

The Fibre for FTTC cabinets and FTTP both come from the Agg Node.
The Fibre for G.Fast comes from fibre at the existing FTTC cabinet.
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Thanks for the info both
Standard User McShaneDCFC
(newbie) Tue 14-May-19 16:21:20
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I applied for a desktop quote on 01 April, still haven�t received a response from Cerberus. Is it normal to take this long?
Standard User Spinstorm
(committed) Thu 16-May-19 20:20:29
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I originally asked for a quote back in November 2018; then I was told native FTTP was coming to my street with work due to be complete by end of April; then I was told that due to issues with the highway that they had indefinitely delayed native fibre in my area; Openreach then told Cerberus that they would do a quote.

I got that back today; needless to say I asked that they cancel the order as it came to £22,960 with VAT - the desktop quote was £9,500 and the hope was that the actual quote would come out below that not more than double.

A breakdown of the charges is below:

Labour
£5,686.00
Stores
£4,170.00
Contract Labour
£0.00
Civils
£9,800.00
Civils Stores
£0.00
Tree cutting
£0.00
BT Connection Charge
£495.00
-£250.00
Deductions
-£1,000.00
£18,901.00

The deductions are for the survey fee and for premises passed.

Can anyone break down these costs? My post code is BN207TW.
Standard User Ixel
(committed) Thu 16-May-19 21:21:07
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While I can't breakdown the costs, just wanted to mention that you're in the same city as me. That is quite a high price though, unfortunately.
Standard User bowdon
(committed) Thu 16-May-19 23:35:17
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In reply to a post by Spinstorm:
I got that back today; needless to say I asked that they cancel the order as it came to £22,960 with VAT - the desktop quote was £9,500 and the hope was that the actual quote would come out below that not more than double.


I think thats the first time that the survey quote came out higher thn the desktop quote.

I'm still waiting for the survey report for mine. Apparently Cerberus are having to escalate the planning team to get on with the report/cost. So not sure if thats a good or bad sign.

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Standard User candlerb
(committed) Fri 17-May-19 08:58:07
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In reply to a post by bowdon:
I think thats the first time that the survey quote came out higher thn the desktop quote.


It's happened a couple of times before that have been reported here.
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