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Standard User Alucidnation
(member) Sat 25-May-19 15:11:56
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 4


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In reply to a post by dect:
Here are the dimensions in mm (H x W x D)

Enclosure - 252.4 x 215 x 39.5

The enclosure has space for the following

ONT - 134 x 115 x 25
BBU - 150 x 80 x 25


Thanks for that.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 25-May-19 17:20:02
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 4


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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
Considering BT Wholesale don't sell anything above 330/30 on FTTPoD at present, I wouldn't read too much into FTTPoD 1000/220 visbility on the DSL checker, ie its likely to be an error. Once FTTPoD changes to WBC FTTP - 330/50 or above - that is the time for your neighbours to get excited smile

Aha - I was using it as a proxy, as it at least meant the database entry had been updated.

It looks like there have been more updates today.

My line has changed to:

WBC FTTP
Upto 1000
Upto 220
--
Available
1 Stage

and

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential OH Feed with no anticipated issues.

FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered.

Checking the rest of the street via the address checker shows a mixed picture.

The properties that didn't update to the (presently fictional) 1000/220 FTTPoD remain as having 330/30 FTTPoD as available.

My neighbour who is on the same pole as me, who has a different postcode and street address, as well as 3 houses across the road are listed as having FTTP. Two more houses on my side of the road also have it, but my immediate neighbour to the south has reverted back to FTTPoD 330/30 - I suspect that's because their house is relatively new and perhaps the address system hasn't caught up. It's fed from the same pole as two other FTTP properties though, so it seems like an error to me. I don't envy them when they try and get FTTP service!

The quote said 7 properties would be passed. There are exactly 6, aside from me, who now have FTTP for free. There are two properties connected to the same pole (across the road) who are just showing 330/30 FoD, so given that there's a 12-port connector installed I'd hope they'll also be able to connect in due course...

Anyway, my FTTPoD story is nearly at an end. I'm awaiting a phone call to arrange an engineer appointment, then the end is in sight!

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Standard User Ixel
(committed) Sat 25-May-19 20:59:17
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They were still supplying them with BBU's as of over a month ago when I had mine installed. I don't think there's been an exact end date set in stone yet. It will be unfortunate when that stops, but there are of course other means to keep a 12v (I think it's 12v DC) device running these days. You don't need a big UPS device either. iPower DC (from PowerInspired), for example, may work.

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Standard User Alucidnation
(member) Sat 25-May-19 21:07:04
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Re: FTTPoD desktop quotes and final prices Part 4


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They were still supplying them with BBU's as of over a month ago when I had mine installed. I don't think there's been an exact end date set in stone yet. It will be unfortunate when that stops, but there are of course other means to keep a 12v (I think it's 12v DC) device running these days. You don't need a big UPS device either. iPower DC (from PowerInspired), for example, may work.


Ok thanks.

From what I understood, the bbu was to keep the phone side alive in the event of a power cut?

I am trying to find the article now but it�s disappeared!
Standard User Ixel
(committed) Sat 25-May-19 21:55:20
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That's correct, although it will keep the network connection running so if you have a laptop and a router on a UPS then it's handy (for example). I believe it can run for up to an hour.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 25-May-19 22:30:08
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That's correct, although it will keep the network connection running so if you have a laptop and a router on a UPS then it's handy (for example). I believe it can run for up to an hour.

In the event of a power cut the LAN ports on the ONT are automatically disabled, the BBU is only used to supply power to the voice port (FVA). I guess you could keep the ONT plugged into a ups to keep the lan ports active.

Since FTTPoD is sold as a �data only� service, it made no sense for me to use a bbu hence I politely refused one. I have the older 4 port ONT installed, and it only measures around 20x15cm. Openreach Engineers still carry 4 port ONTs in their vans, down to pot luck whether they have a spare one lying around on the day of the install.

4 port ONT for my install:
https://postimg.cc/YGR0R28S

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Standard User Ixel
(committed) Sun 26-May-19 00:26:28
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Ah, I assumed it powered the entire device, that's unfortunate then. Pointless me running a BBU in that case.

Edited by Ixel (Sun 26-May-19 00:26:57)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 26-May-19 01:00:24
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If you ran your own BBU then that would power the whole device. The OR one was only there to guarantee the 999 service worked.

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Standard User Alucidnation
(member) Sun 26-May-19 06:21:18
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Finally found the article...

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/10/openre...

Seems they are only stopping them by default in FTTP only areas.

Edited by Alucidnation (Sun 26-May-19 06:24:21)

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Ah, I assumed it powered the entire device, that's unfortunate then. Pointless me running a BBU in that case.


Indeed.

Even sillier for me: they didn't link up the fibre voice port at all, they just connected my phone to regular copper ...so the battery backup does absolutely nothing at all.
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