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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 10-Jun-19 15:54:55
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Re: Fibre on exchange only line


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
You are walking a tightrope between spamming and just pointing out that the petition exists


You seemed to think it was spamming a couple months ago. wink
Not sure how reposting the same junk changes that.

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/notspot/t/4617317-...

The only reason he's now posting the link again as the petition requires you to give 5 signatures before it's published/goes live.
It's taken him 2 months to reach the 5 signatures.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 10-Jun-19 17:08:49
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Re: Fibre on exchange only line


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Was being kind, so can see what the reaction to it is.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 10-Jun-19 17:50:15
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Re: Fibre on exchange only line


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
I understand how a regular member encouraging others in the community to sign a worthwhile petition can be a positive thing.

Joining a site and posting self serving links the day you registered, adding nothing to the site/community, then returning 2 months later to post the same links is a little spammy.
Just my opinion though smile

I have zero pity for their cause.

I feel sorry for those who only get 2-3Mb or less, regardless of how they receive it.

They get above 20Mb on their Exchange Only ADSL line and think it should be some special priority to be upgraded.
Why an EO line "feet from the exchange" should have some kind of priority over a line connected to an FTTC cabinet 2 miles away is beyond me.


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Standard User kitfit1
(newbie) Mon 10-Jun-19 20:24:12
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Re: Fibre on exchange only line


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Back in the early 2000's peeps like the OP would have been more than happy to be on an Exchange line, they got the best speeds then and probably did until FTTC came along. So they had it good for many many years when the rest of us had rubbish to deal with.
If i was in the OP's position i would simply cancel the line, let it be disconnected at the exchange, give it a month or 2 and then re-order a new line.
Standard User JonRennie
(knowledge is power) Mon 10-Jun-19 21:52:36
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It's up to 14 signatures now. The government must be quaking in their boots.

wink Comms is hard wink
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 10-Jun-19 22:16:31
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Unchanged since 12:53 today then smile.

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Standard User sheephouse
(member) Mon 10-Jun-19 22:18:17
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Re-ordering a new line would just result in an EO line as before so it would't gain anything. Until an infill FTTC cabinet or FTTP is built there is no alternative for an EO line (I have one...)
Standard User simon194
(experienced) Tue 11-Jun-19 10:04:08
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EO lines don't necessarily give the best speeds. Where my sister used the whole village was on EO lines connected to the exchange in the next village about 4 miles away and got a whooping 512Kbps on a good day.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 11-Jun-19 10:20:28
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[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
They get above 20Mb on their Exchange Only ADSL line and think it should be some special priority to be upgraded.
Why an EO line "feet from the exchange" should have some kind of priority over a line connected to an FTTC cabinet 2 miles away is beyond


This petition is of course pointless as it is not currently a political issue (and even if it was, petition written like that would not get you anywhere) but I wonder about the origins of the notion that EO lines are generally super fast on ADSL standards.

There are of course many of those (near exchanges) but at least in London it appears to be 80's and early 90's thing to cable everything to the exchange, no matter how far away. Some of these areas were done using aluminium, not copper. East London has plenty of EO areas where average speed is 2-3mbps. FTTB providers have generally done most blocks of flats but those in houses do not have anything better in sight - 4G USO service with a data cap will not be of much help to an urban streamer or online gamer.

Despite spamming and a badly written petition EO lines are a pain. They are the most expensive to upgrade and it seems that they are just being ignored. Quite a lot of investment goes now to upgrading FTTC areas to FTTP or FTTC to G.Fast as the current Openreach business model just does not have an incentive to do anything to the areas expensive to upgrade. There is always a new technology or something else that directs the investment to non-EO areas.

For example in my inner London constituency full fibre goes forward in amazing leaps according to Thinkbroadband statistics. Every month shows an increase in full fibre footprint - but the percentage of non-USO compliant lines remains strong and stable at 7.6%.

Not sure what can be done if anything but the problem is real.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 11-Jun-19 10:51:57
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In reply to a post by hvis42:
East London has plenty of EO areas where average speed is 2-3mbps. FTTB providers have generally done most blocks of flats but those in houses do not have anything better in sight - 4G USO service with a data cap will not be of much help to an urban streamer or online gamer.
Streaming on Three 4G is fine and genuinely unlimited. £20pm or £22pm depending on your choice of method. Useless for gaming, I accept.

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