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Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(member) Wed 12-Feb-20 18:54:11
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Re: Sky fibre gone live.


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click the Connection Status tab next to Show Statistics.

Disconnect the DSL for about 5 mins and reconnect to force a new IP and that will restore your throughput. it's some kind of wired issue with sky..


Ok thanks for the reply, just done that and first test was 57mb down 18mb up, did another on another site and that was 66mb down and 18.3mb up,want it back to 72mb down i got with the SR102 on previous speedtest results.





Well i am synced at 77317 down, 19999 up and this is my latest speedtest result. Is this around what i should expect all being well.

down 73.7mbps up 18.9mbps


https://imgur.com/Xsin2py

This is my internet speed test https://i.imgur.com/6XC1WI7.jpg

Download 80.4 Mbps Upload 20 Mbps

Line 1
Downstream Upstream
Actual Rate [Kbps] 80000 19999
Maximum Rate [Kbps] 80534 19999
Noise Margin [dB] 6.40 15.40
Attenuation [dB] 17.90 0.00
Power [dBm] 13.00 7.60

This is how it is supposed to be! wink
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 12-Feb-20 19:17:01
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Re: Sky fibre gone live.


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Ok thanks for the reply, just done that and first test was 57mb down 18mb up, did another on another site and that was 66mb down and 18.3mb up,want it back to 72mb down i got with the SR102 on previous speedtest results.





Well i am synced at 77317 down, 19999 up and this is my latest speedtest result. Is this around what i should expect all being well.

down 73.7mbps up 18.9mbps


https://imgur.com/Xsin2py

This is my internet speed test https://i.imgur.com/6XC1WI7.jpg

Download 80.4 Mbps Upload 20 Mbps

Line 1
Downstream Upstream
Actual Rate [Kbps] 80000 19999
Maximum Rate [Kbps] 80534 19999
Noise Margin [dB] 6.40 15.40
Attenuation [dB] 17.90 0.00
Power [dBm] 13.00 7.60

This is how it is supposed to be! wink


Your line attention is 17.90 and noise margin is 6.40 down ?

My line attention is 7.5 and noise is 6.5 down, so with my attention only 7.5 down is my line shorter from the street cab?
Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(member) Wed 12-Feb-20 19:37:22
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Re: Sky fibre gone live.


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Well i am synced at 77317 down, 19999 up and this is my latest speedtest result. Is this around what i should expect all being well.

down 73.7mbps up 18.9mbps


https://imgur.com/Xsin2py

This is my internet speed test https://i.imgur.com/6XC1WI7.jpg

Download 80.4 Mbps Upload 20 Mbps

Line 1
Downstream Upstream
Actual Rate [Kbps] 80000 19999
Maximum Rate [Kbps] 80534 19999
Noise Margin [dB] 6.40 15.40
Attenuation [dB] 17.90 0.00
Power [dBm] 13.00 7.60

This is how it is supposed to be! wink


Your line attention is 17.90 and noise margin is 6.40 down ?

My line attention is 7.5 and noise is 6.5 down, so with my attention only 7.5 down is my line shorter from the street cab?

If your line attentuation is indeed 7.5 dB you are definitely supposed to be syncing in at 80000kbps. Have you checked https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.Addre... ?
This should give you high and low. My cabinet is around 290 meters from my home. Approximately 250 meters to the entrance of my building with another 40 or so meters up to the 14th floor where I live.

There are people managing to sync in at 80 Mbps with 470 meters to street cabinet. If crosstalk is a problem then this can reduce internet speeds. Make sure your internal wiring at home is good and that you have a VDSL Faceplate installed in the master socket if you haven't got one already. This gets rid of the need to use a micro filter. An Openreach engineer came to my home as part of the upgrade to install one for free with TalkTalk.

The VDSL Faceplate should make a big difference to speeds and noise margins. Of-course noise margins are not necessarily indicators of shorter or longer lines, it is more to do with line stability. Generally the shorter the line the higher the noise margins as less noise is being accumulated.

If you only just signed up then you may have to wait for a few days so your router syncs at 80000 Kbps. But make sure you have the VDSL Faceplate installed, if you haven't got it already.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 12-Feb-20 19:48:59
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Re: Sky fibre gone live.


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This is my internet speed test https://i.imgur.com/6XC1WI7.jpg

Download 80.4 Mbps Upload 20 Mbps

Line 1
Downstream Upstream
Actual Rate [Kbps] 80000 19999
Maximum Rate [Kbps] 80534 19999
Noise Margin [dB] 6.40 15.40
Attenuation [dB] 17.90 0.00
Power [dBm] 13.00 7.60

This is how it is supposed to be! wink


Your line attention is 17.90 and noise margin is 6.40 down ?

My line attention is 7.5 and noise is 6.5 down, so with my attention only 7.5 down is my line shorter from the street cab?

If your line attentuation is indeed 7.5 dB you are definitely supposed to be syncing in at 80000kbps. Have you checked https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.Addre... ?
This should give you high and low. My cabinet is around 290 meters from my home. Approximately 250 meters to the entrance of my building with another 40 or so meters up to the 14th floor where I live.

There are people managing to sync in at 80 Mbps with 470 meters to street cabinet. If crosstalk is a problem then this can reduce internet speeds. Make sure your internal wiring at home is good and that you have a VDSL Faceplate installed in the master socket if you haven't got one already. This gets rid of the need to use a micro filter. An Openreach engineer came to my home as part of the upgrade to install one for free with TalkTalk.

The VDSL Faceplate should make a big difference to speeds and noise margins. Of-course noise margins are not necessarily indicators of shorter or longer lines, it is more to do with line stability. Generally the shorter the line the higher the noise margins as less noise is being accumulated.

If you only just signed up then you may have to wait for a few days so your router syncs at 80000 Kbps. But make sure you have the VDSL Faceplate installed, if you haven't got it already.

Been activated now for 16 days and already have filtered face plate, but not the best of routers, sky ER115

https://imgur.com/cyWJO8k

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Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
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Re: Sky fibre gone live.


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Your line attention is 17.90 and noise margin is 6.40 down ?

My line attention is 7.5 and noise is 6.5 down, so with my attention only 7.5 down is my line shorter from the street cab?

If your line attentuation is indeed 7.5 dB you are definitely supposed to be syncing in at 80000kbps. Have you checked https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.Addre... ?
This should give you high and low. My cabinet is around 290 meters from my home. Approximately 250 meters to the entrance of my building with another 40 or so meters up to the 14th floor where I live.

There are people managing to sync in at 80 Mbps with 470 meters to street cabinet. If crosstalk is a problem then this can reduce internet speeds. Make sure your internal wiring at home is good and that you have a VDSL Faceplate installed in the master socket if you haven't got one already. This gets rid of the need to use a micro filter. An Openreach engineer came to my home as part of the upgrade to install one for free with TalkTalk.

The VDSL Faceplate should make a big difference to speeds and noise margins. Of-course noise margins are not necessarily indicators of shorter or longer lines, it is more to do with line stability. Generally the shorter the line the higher the noise margins as less noise is being accumulated.

If you only just signed up then you may have to wait for a few days so your router syncs at 80000 Kbps. But make sure you have the VDSL Faceplate installed, if you haven't got it already.

Been activated now for 16 days and already have filtered face plate, but not the best of routers, sky ER115

https://imgur.com/cyWJO8k

This is mine and it is very similar to yours.

WBC SOGEA Availability Date
High Low High Low
VDSL Range A (Clean) 80 68.2 20 19 62.1 Available --
VDSL Range B (Impacted) 80 65.1 20 19 56.6 Available --

My stats are slightly lower. My cabinet is 20 Bishopsgate and is located 46 Frostic Walk, Shadwell, London E1 5LT so when I inputted that in Google Maps for directions I see it adds up to 0.2 miles but total when connecting and adding it altogether it adds up to around 290 meters.

Your cabinet should also be around 300 meters or less judging by those stats. If you are seeing High 80 then your router should be syncing at 80000 or 79999 Kbps.

That Sky router is not the best especially if you are using WiFi. But it does have 2 Gigabit Ethernet LAN ports so I don't understand why you're not syncing at full speeds.

You haven't been turning off the router on and off during those days? Because this can make DLM think your line is unstable and increase your noise margins.

First few days when my service with TalkTalk went live on the 5th of February I was getting only 68 Mbps even when my router was syncing at 80000Kbps. But since yesterday my speeds went up to 75+ Mbps and sometimes hitting 80 Mbps on Internet Frog and 78.5 Mbps on Which Broadband Speed Test.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Feb-20 20:31:04
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Re: Sky fibre gone live.


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The VDSL Faceplate should make a big difference to speeds and noise margins. Of-course noise margins are not necessarily indicators of shorter or longer lines, it is more to do with line stability. Generally the shorter the line the higher the noise margins as less noise is being accumulated.

There are some �untruths� in this paragraph.

A VDSL faceplate will only make a difference if there is extension wiring attached to the NTE.

�the shorter the line the higher the noise margin� Not true. The noise margin will attempt to achieve its preset target margin.... (there�s more to it than that, but essentially that�s the gist)

Standard User wolvesmad
(knowledge is power) Wed 12-Feb-20 20:44:06
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The TP Link Archer is a good modem, it's got a decent broadcom chipset but the wireless on it isn't great. 5Ghz performance on it was really poor imo.

Being on a Huawei cab, I plugged in my old Huawei HG612 and bought a seperate cable router.

It's been rock solid. You're doing well getting full speed on that attenuation. It must be a nice clean line with little crosstalk.

17db my attenuation. 68/20mbps.

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Standard User wolvesmad
(knowledge is power) Wed 12-Feb-20 20:46:21
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Probably the activation of G.INP and potentially an SNR reduction by DLM.

G.INP generally causes a 10mbps leap in sync speed.

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Still very happy with a sync of 77mbps and speedtest of 73mbps
Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(member) Wed 12-Feb-20 22:40:31
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The VDSL Faceplate should make a big difference to speeds and noise margins. Of-course noise margins are not necessarily indicators of shorter or longer lines, it is more to do with line stability. Generally the shorter the line the higher the noise margins as less noise is being accumulated.

There are some �untruths� in this paragraph.

A VDSL faceplate will only make a difference if there is extension wiring attached to the NTE.

�the shorter the line the higher the noise margin� Not true. The noise margin will attempt to achieve its preset target margin.... (there�s more to it than that, but essentially that�s the gist)

The VDSL Faceplate isolates the broadband from the telephone line and the orange ring wire. This should help eliminate any noise on the line. This is what the BT Openreach engineer told me when he came on the 3rd of February to install the Faceplate MK4.

Yeah, it is true that the noise margin will attempt to achieve the preset target margin. But it is also true that if there is line and the internet drops out, DLM will increase the noise margin to stabilize the connection and in the process this will lower the speed.

Generally speaking if you are able to achieve top speeds with a noise margin of 3-6 dB then you have a really clean line.

I only just moved to FTTC from ADSL on the 3rd of February. Before that I had ADSL at 12 Mbps with a noise margin of 9 dB because at 3 or 6 dB under ADSL my internet would drop out quite frequently like 2-5 times a day.

That was EO Line with a 1320 meters copper line to the exchange. But now with the FTTC cabinet that copper length has been slashed down to less than 300 meters.

This means that now under FTTC I have around a thousand meters less copper cable traveling from the cabinet to my property. Which is why now my line seems to be achieving stable sync with a 6.40 dB noise margin for the last 6 days or so. Previously this was impossible to achieve because that long 1000 meter copper line would collect a lot of noise on the line.

My understanding is if the router is syncing at 80000 Kbps and 19999 Kbps with a 6dB noise margin profile then DLM will not need to lower it down to 3dB as it is happily syncing at top speeds at 6dB.

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The TP Link Archer is a good modem, it's got a decent broadcom chipset but the wireless on it isn't great. 5Ghz performance on it was really poor imo.

Being on a Huawei cab, I plugged in my old Huawei HG612 and bought a seperate cable router.

It's been rock solid. You're doing well getting full speed on that attenuation. It must be a nice clean line with little crosstalk.

17db my attenuation. 68/20mbps.

Yes, indeed there seems to be little crosstalk, perhaps because my cabinet went live in October 2019 and many people in my building are unaware that there is Fibre. I am probably the first and only person to have identified my cabinet going live on the 1st of October. So with less people being on FTTC and most of them being tenants they are probably not informed yet.

Crosstalk might affect me after 1-2 years, who knows. But as long as most people in my building living as tenants then hopefully they are less likely to subscribe to an FTTC package and therefore less likely to contribute to crosstalk!
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