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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 02-Apr-20 18:47:00
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


[re: F00tS0re] [link to this post]
 
The chances of someone digging up fibre tubes is higher than copper in my view.

You can't detect fibre tubes with a common or garden cable avoidance tool and many operators are digging in unprotected direct in ground at extremely shallow depths that are in danger from the initial angle grinder cuts before the spades come out.
Standard User Rolandrat
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-20 19:02:41
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


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Not the case around here.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 02-Apr-20 19:44:38
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


[re: Rolandrat] [link to this post]
 
The modern fibre bundles with kevlar can be pushed pulled.

The push pull of the old blown fibre tubes even though no fibre in them was sometimes a problem since pinch points could be created making blowing the fibre later harder.

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Standard User burble
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-20 19:58:01
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
As a rough guess 50 properties have access to FTTP, might be more, I think at best half have so far taken it, some will be like me waiting to see what Sky and TalkTalk will be offering, or still on a FTTC contract, or it seems some might well not know yet.
As for the 'fault free' that came from BT saying they would be employing less when it's all FTTP.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Apr-20 20:15:15
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


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The chances of someone digging up fibre tubes is higher than copper in my view.

Agreed .......

The bigger issue is the amount that’s being strung overhead , it won’t take the same degree of rubbing and stretching that branches meter out to copper.

Standard User Rolandrat
(committed) Thu 02-Apr-20 20:30:29
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Kevlar, thats the stuff I just couldnt remember the name. Thanks.
Standard User steve195527
(regular) Fri 03-Apr-20 09:15:25
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


[re: cajef] [link to this post]
 
been scratching my head and rubbing my chin in deep thought trying to think of anything that is 100% reliable 100% of the time,and I do mean anything,and I cant think of a single thing that is:-even our sun will die at some time in the future,so even that isn't!:-things can and do go wrong,accept it,luckilly most things can be fixed or replaced

Edited by steve195527 (Fri 03-Apr-20 10:07:04)

Standard User comerford
(newbie) Fri 03-Apr-20 09:58:02
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Re: FTTP reliablity?


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Most, but not all, direct bury fibre has a locator wire within its construction so that it can be detected using the usual methods.
Standard User burble
(committed) Fri 03-Apr-20 14:09:38
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As I posted in the OP, less faults. so far in our village the reverse has been true.
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Fri 03-Apr-20 14:23:19
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[re: burble] [link to this post]
 
You are talking about a single installation - which sounds like it may have been installed badly - so it doesn't prove whether FTTP suffers fewer faults overall.

One of the good things about FTTP is that basically it either works at full speed, or not at all. So when it fails, there's a clear fault which can be easily reported, and quickly isolated and fixed. Any speed problems are either with your ISP or your home network.

With copper you get degradation from water ingress, increasing crosstalk, impulse noise etc. These sorts of problems are much harder to get fixed.
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