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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 08-Apr-20 08:04:50
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Good morning. I have a Huawei HG8110H-20 from the company Openreach, to replace the ONT of Movistar Spain. I cannot access the Huawei via web. Could someone tell me how to do it. Thank you.
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Wed 08-Apr-20 09:03:51
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Now waiting for follow-up spam...
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(deleted) Wed 08-Apr-20 10:38:26
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(staff) Wed 08-Apr-20 11:05:41
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Re: O.R ONT Alternative


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Post has many of the hallmarks of a random spammer.

The genuine question is why do you want to swap the ONT? Or what problem are you trying to solve.

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Ancient_Mariner
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 08-Apr-20 12:50:32
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Re: O.R ONT Alternative


[re: robsdesk] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by robsdesk:
Think of the ONT as the master socket in the pstn world, the RJ45 port marks the demarcation between openreach and the customer, obviously the ONT does more & is an active device rather than passive.

But wasn't that the case when FTTC was first provided? The demarcation point for Telephony was still the BT431A socket, but for Data, the RJ45 port on the FTTC Modem. Then OR decided that they were no longer going to support the Modem that they had supplied and if/when it failed the user was required to purchase their own Modem.

Cheers!

Clive

Andrews & Arnold Home::1 FTTC DrayTek Vigor 2762ac Cisco SPA112 and HUAWEI E5776 with O2 Data SIM
Standard User candlerb
(experienced) Wed 08-Apr-20 13:17:43
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True, but the FTTC modem was not on a shared medium, it did not have to be individually registered, and it was not responsible for decrypting your own traffic whilst ignoring other users' traffic.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 08-Apr-20 13:32:01
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In reply to a post by pajal:
I have a Huawei HG8110H-20 from the company Openreach, to replace the ONT of Movistar Spain.
I am wondering where you got the Openreach branded ONT from as they are not legally available to buy either here in the UK or in Spain. They remain the property of Openreach regardless of where you may have acquired it from.
Standard User LeYat
(newbie) Thu 26-Aug-21 16:47:28
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We are having to use our first application of FTTP (for business), we currently have about 50 DSL connections around the country so have been doing a little research.

We would like to replace the ONT with our own equipment for two reasons;

First. Our sites are remote and require an internet connection to operate, so we have been routinely replacing the modems that come from the ISP with enterprise level equipment for reliability. Our experience with provided kit is that it requires resetting more often than is good. We have failover lines and other mitigation, but it can still be a pain in the neck.

The second reason is related to the first. If something fails on site we need to replace it quickly. Rather than being able to do this ourselves, instead we have to go through the whole faff with Openreach just so someone can turn up and replace a box which we could have done a week earlier. It's not as if it saves a journey as Openreach won't enter an unattended site so we might have to drive from Somerset to Liverpool to wait for an engineer to spend three minutes unplugging and plugging in a piece of equipment and driving the four hours back.

Hopefully this won't be a major issue! We will need to pay for two lines so we can remotely switch between them to maintain connection, which sort of defeats some of the advantages of FTTP.

As an aside, and talking about the ONT provided, the local fibre network would see all the traffic in your area, I am given to understand that if you take your ONT and plug it in next door you will still get your connection. So hopefully the security is good on them.
Standard User Ad_G
(newbie) Thu 26-Aug-21 17:14:48
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[re: LeYat] [link to this post]
 
The Openreach ONT is part of the service and as far as I am aware cannot be replaced with your own kit.

The ONT is registered with the OLT in the exchange to provide service, Openreach (or most Altnets) don't allow you to register other ONTs with their system. With some vendors using other manufacturers ONTs needs extra licences and gets complex to work.

Theory says you can plug third party ONTs into PON systems, but reality at the moment is that is generally a pain so it is generally not permitted on UK deployments. I suspect this might change in a few years but no sign yet.

PON is just that - a passive optical network all customers on the same OLT port get the same data, it is that registration of the ONT to the OLT that controls the traffic you can decode, i.e. the ones sent for your service/ONT. If your neighbour is on the same OLT port as you then yes your ONT will get your service if you plug it in there, as far as the OLT in the exchange is concerned you are in the same place.
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(deleted) Thu 26-Aug-21 17:18:55
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Hi. For whatever reason, I only just now got an email to say that someone replied to my post. It was a genuine question. It turned out that the ONT at that property (I no longer live there) was Huawei, and I had no problems with it. I have since had a couple of Huawei phones that have been excellent. I take it they're no longer using Huawei. I think that's a shame. I just thought there's no point having a good router and home networking gear if the modem is pants. Lots of the cheap routers I've had from ISPs have been pretty rubbish, and so I always prefer to have my own where possible. It really gets my goat when companies lock you out. I know two people who are both locked out of their routers and can't even change the WiFi name or password.
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