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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Jul-20 21:46:59
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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That is a seriously pants install.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Jul-20 22:09:16
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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Whether a Nokia or Huawei is used depends on the corresponding make of the head end I believe.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Jul-20 22:11:58
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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In reply to a post by Highland76:
In reply to a post by max1486:
I see all of your installs have a box, whilst mine is just directly into the wall with the ONT on the other side?

It seems you have a connectorized install, ie direct cable from ONT to Distribution Point (DP). Therefore no need for the external box (CSP).

.... which is no longer the agreed method for installation


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Jul-20 22:13:17
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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... and the field fit connectors have a habit of failing

Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 04-Jul-20 11:29:23
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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I'm confused here, with the connectorised cbts, do we still have the csp or not?
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 04-Jul-20 17:03:56
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For a while, CSP’s disappeared, CBT to field fit connector in one continuous length.

This made future testing harder, needing an appointment to access the cable more often than not. The field fit connectors have a fairly high failure rate (for instance I fitted one, all testing pukka, good readings, and within a week it failed). Also, stripping anything other than a really short length from external black to internal white was very time consuming. Appointments were also taking too much of the customers time ... as dragging the fibre from CBT right to ONT could sometimes take hours ....

New ‘inside out’ process fixes this.

Pre made SC connector on a lead, very easy to strip, fit the ONT, run this lead outside, easy. The customer can now leave if needs be. Fit a CSP, providing an external access/test point. The CBT to CSP fibre can now be run in in without the customer needing to be present. A win-win situation (although for those who have ‘been around a while’ there may be a realisation that this is kinda how it used to be done)

This does mean that engineers again need to be trained on and supplied a splicer, but that’s no bad thing in my book

Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 04-Jul-20 18:46:20
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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Looks like you got the Huawei ONT fitted and not the latest Nokia ONT.


Which is fortunate, or they would have no working service.

There isn't going to be a switch to using the Nokia ONT on all FTTP installs.

They will only use the "newer" Nokia ONT if they are connected to a Nokia OLT in the exchange.

They don't mix and match Vendors.
Standard User busterboy
(committed) Sat 04-Jul-20 19:12:44
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Re: Full Fibre 900


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There isn't going to be a switch to using the Nokia ONT on all FTTP installs.

They will only use the "newer" Nokia ONT if they are connected to a Nokia OLT in the exchange.


Personally it doesn't matter to me as both do the job. smile

Is it a closely guarded secret as to what OLT is at each exchange.

"ie" my exchange is ARTHINGTON with a code MYART as seen here.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 04-Jul-20 19:58:15
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So its now blown fibre from DP/CBT to CSP? If so, are they still blowing 4 fibre strands to CSP, with 3 kept as spares?

This is mine done in 2017

https://imgur.com/a/5ZSV4IZ
Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 04-Jul-20 20:03:30
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Is it a closely guarded secret as to what OLT is at each exchange.


Not publicly available info.

If your exchange has Huawei FTTC cabinets then it has a Huawei OLT.

Exchanges can have both Huawei and Nokia OLT's though.

Some FTTP on your exchange can be on a Huawei OLT while other FTTP can be from a Nokia OLT.

You won't know until it's installed.
You could ask a direct neighbour on the same PON as you (the same splitter, up to 32 properties) if they have a Nokia or Huawei ONT.

As you say it really doesn't matter as they both do the exact same thing and the available speeds is the same on both. ***

I was just pointing out that there isn't going to be a switch to the newest ONT for everyone just because it's newer.
It's not like ISP's switching to providing their latest Hub to new customers.

It entirely depends on what Vendors equipment is at the other end of the fibre as to which ONT you will receive.

*** Some FTTP is still connected to ECI OLT's and should come with an ECI ONT.
FTTP on an ECI OLT is limited to 330Mb.
The last word from OpenReach was that less than 50,000 properties were limited by an ECI OLT.
That's 50,000 passed properties and not active connections.
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