In reply to a post by witchunt:

Only the 1st 100 due to commence in the next decade
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/12/openre...
Going to be a long program

There are a few exchanges on that list that were the busiest in the world for private wires in their day, the likes of DC5, DC10, AC15, Fig 1, Fig 2 and Fig 6 circuits which I assume have long since gone now.

john83

The Products taken are all from OR, colocation space etc and they are all Regulated and Mandated by OFCOM. The space is all OR's the rents are paid at regulated rates to OR.. Some buildings do not have any OR kit in these are Badged to Wholesale but they are few and far between. ( They have no MDF or local access in).

I read your comment as the LLU falls under OR so no rent of space.

I see you were making a point that some buildings are leased to BT Wholesale rather than OpenReach.

I view in flat mode and there was no quotes on your post. Reading it again without the context of the post your were replying to i would make the same assumption.

Indeed - but beyond that first 100 - which other ones?

That's it for now.

In reply to a post by kitcat:

john83

The Products taken are all from OR, colocation space etc and they are all Regulated and Mandated by OFCOM. The space is all OR's the rents are paid at regulated rates to OR.. Some buildings do not have any OR kit in these are Badged to Wholesale but they are few and far between. ( They have no MDF or local access in).

This is interesting. Some of those buildings listed I know well and the majority of kit inside is BT, not Openreach. MUAs are surely BT’s areas though? And can be vast in size.

Edited by _Icaras_ (Thu 21-Jan-21 08:46:53)

In reply to a post by heathrow:

Indeed - but beyond that first 100 - which other ones?

Im not sure you’d see an announcement soon on that. As I read it’s simply a “consultation” for now, and they’ve given themselves the best part of 10 years to action it. The talking and planning could take some years.

However given their lease deadline, they may decide to accelerate the process of this first 100 (depending on the complexities involved). The majority or indeed all of the 4600 may well be done earlier than the deadline they’ve announced for the first 100, based on the intimation is that closure of the 98% remainder *could* be accelerated. Still its a massive programme of work - close to 500 exchanges per year if they really want out by 2031.

Legacy telcos around the world would be undertaking similar programmes, as last mile delivery technology undergoes huge transformational change

Icarus

BT kit as in PSTN will supposedly all be gone by 2025, ( Great for scrappies!)

BT ADSL kit is also on the way out with a push to FTTC / FTTP in the same timescales. BT Retail is trying to supply all BB over FTTC / FTTP where it is available which will be most if not all these sites.

Only EO lines to be addressed to remove all ADSL, which certainly happened in Chelsea when it closed

Only BT kit left is PC and metro/core. PC in London are mainly ethernet / fibre and most are no longer with BT. Just the Metro/core to sort which can be done as the existing kit goes obsolete over the next 5 years..

PC?


Presumably with PSTN switch off all the System X/Y kit goes in the bin?

Private circuits.

Presumably with PSTN switch off all the System X/Y kit goes in the bin?

If they cant sell it on to some developing country then there is going to be some scrap value . Must be some gold contacts and copper that can be recovered. Maybe other valuable metals.
Must be a few tons of steel and aluminium in the racks and cable trays.

Edited by witchunt (Thu 21-Jan-21 17:52:36)