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Standard User jabuzzard
(experienced) Thu 26-Aug-21 21:04:22
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The device serial number is locked to your account, they scan it as part of the install process.


Noting that's just a setting in the firmware on the ONT. If you think that can't be changed on a third party ONT to match the Openreach ONT (and the MAC address for good measure), then I have a slightly used bridge to sell you with only a few snapped cables and brand new truss end links smile
Standard User APTMAN
(committed) Thu 26-Aug-21 21:46:51
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Yep think it was APTMAN on here that recently had a Nokia ONT installed oh a Huawei headend.


It certainly was me, Only because of the incompetent cowboy installer from MJ Quinn fitted the wrong one. seems to be working quite well though smile.
Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 26-Aug-21 22:08:44
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It certainly was me, Only because of the incompetent cowboy installer from MJ Quinn fitted the wrong one. seems to be working quite well though smile.

Wouldn't expect you to see any difference whatsoever 😀


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Standard User Ad_G
(newbie) Fri 27-Aug-21 08:45:37
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Noting that's just a setting in the firmware on the ONT. If you think that can't be changed on a third party ONT to match the Openreach ONT (and the MAC address for good measure), then I have a slightly used bridge to sell you with only a few snapped cables and brand new truss end links smile


Indeed - however whilst the basic G-PON functions are standard there are a lot of other bits around it that are used to manage/control FTTH networks that are not, so Openreach/other PON providers are very likely to spot it is not one of their ONTs (if they care). A lot of the service monitoring/support data you can get off ONTs is either not consistency implemented or is proprietary.

Openreach support Ethernet OAM for example, would a third party one work the same way?

There is a lot of work ongoing with some vendors to certify third party ONTs to give more flexibility for different deployment scenarios. ONTs on an SFP are an interesting one, the end-device just sees a standard SFP, so it means you can take a lot of sensors and connect them to PON, lots of potential for Smart Cities and small 5G cells.
Standard User troublegum
(member) Fri 27-Aug-21 19:58:57
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In reply to a post by Pheasant:
Yep think it was APTMAN on here that recently had a Nokia ONT installed oh a Huawei headend.


It certainly was me, Only because of the incompetent cowboy installer from MJ Quinn fitted the wrong one. seems to be working quite well though smile.


He did fit the correct one. Openreach installers and presumably the contractors have been told to only fit Nokia ONTs now.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(knowledge is power) Fri 27-Aug-21 20:06:24
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As an aside, and talking about the ONT provided, the local fibre network would see all the traffic in your area, I am given to understand that if you take your ONT and plug it in next door you will still get your connection. So hopefully the security is good on them.
The ONT would only work next door if they were connected to the same fibre going back to the exchange which may not be the case.

If you want rapid repair for an FTTP service you could consider a business account.

You could use your own router, though even that may be difficult if you also want an Openreach based VOIP telephone service. Other VOIP providers should just work.

Michael Chare
Standard User CarlTSpeak
(committed) Sat 28-Aug-21 17:28:51
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Noting that's just a setting in the firmware on the ONT. If you think that can't be changed on a third party ONT to match the Openreach ONT (and the MAC address for good measure), then I have a slightly used bridge to sell you with only a few snapped cables and brand new truss end links smile


Indeed, though I would recommend sticking to the same manufacturer as the original to ensure the proprietary MEs are present.

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Standard User Pheasant
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 30-Aug-21 09:44:16
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He did fit the correct one. Openreach installers and presumably the contractors have been told to only fit Nokia ONTs now.

When did Openreach decree that no more Huawei ONTs would be fitted?
Standard User AllanMcOR
(newbie) Mon 30-Aug-21 11:31:11
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He did fit the correct one. Openreach installers and presumably the contractors have been told to only fit Nokia ONTs now.


Maybe on your patch, not here. We've heard nothing similar. I just finished an install with a Huawei ONT and my next appointment is also receiving a Huawei ONT.
I'm not a contractor but am an OR employee.

Judging by the amount of 1 port Huawei ONT's we have in stores we won't be stopping using them any time soon. There's also nowhere near enough Nokia ONT's here to cover every install.

Al
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(deleted) Mon 30-Aug-21 14:37:14
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Maybe on your patch, not here.
So you haven't been told below yet?
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Engineers have been told to return all Huawei ONT's, so we definitely won't see that combo. It's to be Nokia only from now on.
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