Current Openreach FTTP Dropwire Provision

Mounting excitement (at least from me) regarding FTTP roll out.

Last week I received an email from Openreach (as a result of registering my interest on their website about two years ago) that FTTP is coming soon. It's believable because there's been recent activity in my neighbourhood. Poles being replaced, ducts having new draw ropes poking out of them, and a nearby 70s cul-de-sac having new ducts buried.

My house is currently fed overhead from a BT pole the other side of the road, this 'bounces' off an electricity pole that's on the boundary of my property, and lands on the facia on the front gable end of the house, about 2ft below the apex. (it's a bungalow)

Currently, there's BT16a white square junction box, next to the landing point, where the feed transitions into internal grade CW1308 and disappears into the loft space.

Clearly from what I gather, that route into the house will be a no-no for FTTP.

Presumably (and assuming the fibre dropwire takes the same the same external route) the dropwire will have to run down to ground(ish) level where the external termination box is. That's no problem, I was going to fix some 12x12mm electrical trunking on the inside lip of the white facia board, so the dropwire can't be seen until it hits the brick wall below. From there it can travel down to ground level, and the external box can be under my study window, and the ONT can be on the inside straight through the wall.

What will happen about the copper circuit ? I've seen mention of a hybrid dropwire (preferred, because that won't mean two separate cables) but will the copper pair be split away from the fibre when it hits the house, and go into the BT16a box, or does the copper side follow the same route as the fibre, with the NTE5 next to the ONT ?

I'd actually prefer the latter, because I could then remove the the BT16a from the facia, and chop off the CW1308, making the facia look uncluttered ?

Or is the favoured approach to add in the additional fibre dropwire, and leave the existing copper arrangement alone ?

Obviously I'm only planning a month or so overlap running on FTTC/POTS and FTTP, so I don't really care that the study would be the 'wrong' place for the NTE5

Currently the NTE5 is in a comms cupboard in the middle of the house, and I have 4 CAT6 tielines from there to the study

If a hybrid cable is to be used , since you are keeping the copper phone line, it will run to the same point on the eaves, the copper pair will be split off after the clamp. It’ll then go to meet the joint in the 16a (which ought to be replaced, been obsolete for 15 years or so)
The fibre will then carry on down to the CSP.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

If a hybrid cable is to be used , since you are keeping the copper phone line, it will run to the same point on the eaves, the copper pair will be split off after the clamp. It’ll then go to meet the joint in the 16a (which ought to be replaced, been obsolete for 15 years or so)
The fibre will then carry on down to the CSP.

OK !

I suppose on the day, and very much dependant on the person who turns up, and what mood they're in etc etc, I could request having the NTE5 located next/near to the ONT ?

The more I think about, that's the preferable solution (for me !)

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

I'm only planning a month or so overlap running on FTTC/POTS and FTTP

I take above as meaning you are not upgrading but ordering an additional service, so requesting the engineer move the FTTC/POTS copper service seems to be a somewhat cheeky request.

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

I could request having the NTE5 located next/near to the ONT ?

Dect says
seems to be a somewhat cheeky request.
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If you do not ask you will not find out is my motto

Edited by APTMAN (Thu 19-May-22 14:16:55)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

I'm only planning a month or so overlap running on FTTC/POTS and FTTP

I take above as meaning you are not upgrading but ordering an additional service, so requesting the engineer move the FTTC/POTS copper service seems to be a somewhat cheeky request.

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

I could request having the NTE5 located next/near to the ONT ?

Yep, I’d completely agree with that.

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

If you do not ask you will not find out

This is true and the OP has nothing to lose, just saying how I would received the OP's request. Just imagine you book your car in for a service and on the day you turn up with two cars and say to the servicing engineer, "while you at it could you service my other car for free"

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

If you do not ask you will not find out

This is true and the OP has nothing to lose, just saying how I would received the OP's request. Just imagine you book your car in for a service and on the day you turn up with two cars and say to the servicing engineer, "while you at it could you service my other car for free"

Yes, point taken.

I am talking about an FTTP in addition to the existing 'copper' install.

Thing is, if the drop-wire is to be replaced with a hybrid combined cable, then it's arguably no more effort/time to not split off the copper on the facia, and replace the 16A etc, than to run both components of the cable down to ground level and move the NTE5 to a position next to the ONT.

However, it depends on 'moods' etc on the day !

However, it depends on 'moods' etc on the day !

Lets hope you do not get a cowboy contractor

Edited by APTMAN (Thu 19-May-22 16:31:20)

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

Lets hope you do not get a cowboy contractor

That's the uncontrollable risk in all of this