And when you do get FTTP, you're likely to be served by a different exchange.

FTTP is served by a smaller number of "head-end" exchanges, each of which covers a larger footprint. I think only about 1 in 6 exchanges are head-end exchanges.

I don't know whether Kelvedon is a head-end exchange or not, but the way to find out is to do a BTW availability check for some property which has *only* FTTP available (maybe the new builds fall into this category), and see what exchange the checker says it is served from.

This is the reason why FTTP does not involve FTTC cabinets: it's a completely separate network. When copper finally goes, the local exchanges and the cabinets will go too.

Are you sure? Checking an example postcode for one of the new estates (CO5 9GB) shows these sites to be OFNL and not Openreach.

I apologise for my ignorance on that one.
The CBT is mounted on the last pole in my postcode.

All the spine work for OFNL was carried out by Openreach and uses Openreach ducts back to the Kelvedon exchange.

Nope but Coggeshall, Witham and Tiptree have already started their Openreach roll outs.

In reply to a post by Thumper:

I apologise for my ignorance on that one.
The CBT is mounted on the last pole in my postcode.

Had a quick look on Google Maps and can see where you mean. Woodcote in CB8 8YW can order, but no other properties in that postcode can. It's right on the border of the FTTP build in CB8 8YR

However as said earlier, it's normal for an FTTP build to have to stop at some point.

As @XGS_Is_On quite rightly noted the properties that had FTTP installed in 8YR look to have pretty poor FTTC speeds on the checker - so that the very likely reason they have received an FTTP upgrade and its not been extended further towards the centre of the village - well at this point in time, as part of a commercial build.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

In reply to a post by Thumper:

I apologise for my ignorance on that one.
The CBT is mounted on the last pole in my postcode.

Had a quick look on Google Maps and can see where you mean. Woodcote in CB8 8YW can order, but no other properties in that postcode can. It's right on the border of the FTTP build in CB8 8YR

However as said earlier, it's normal for an FTTP build to have to stop at some point.

As @XGS_Is_On quite rightly noted the properties that had FTTP installed in 8YR look to have pretty poor FTTC speeds on the checker - so that the very likely reason they have received an FTTP upgrade and its not been extended further towards the centre of the village - well at this point in time, as part of a commercial build.

Openreach appear to be hiding the presence of FTTP in this area, not even FTTPoD

Not sure if this is relevant.
We have FTTP, this was installed via a BDUK contract, the fibre follows the same ducts as the copper from the cabinet, it goes past 3/4 of the houses in village before the first house to get FTTP, all those houses it passes show FTTPoD as available, but then lower down it shows this.

FTTP is not available.

The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme

FoD was definitely there when I checked a random sample in 8YW

In reply to a post by Bryer:

All the spine work for OFNL was carried out by Openreach and uses Openreach ducts back to the Kelvedon exchange.

Almost certainly PIA. OFNL's fibre going via Openreach's duct to an OLT in Kelvedon exchange. Presumably OFNL decided it worked out cheaper to pay Openreach to do it rather than get their own engineers on site to prove and unblock ducts then cable.

All their recent build that I've seen has used PIA back to an OLT in an exchange.

The alternative is that they paid all those costs to lease a gigabit or few from Openreach via a leased line which they'd be paying a ton for as they're using it for FTTP backhaul, and use OLTs at the estates in powered cabinets or rooms which would be insanity if done after PIA became easier.

Either way only a little help to you. Proved out some ducts. Will make life easier for an altnet, too. The fibre in the ground if it belongs to Openreach won't be much good for FTTP: not enough of it, in the wrong place via the wrong infrastructure.

EDIT: This is you, isn't it? https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2022/11/sheffi...

Edited by XGS_Is_On (Tue 29-Nov-22 01:18:41)