In reply to a post by candlerb:

Hopefully not just 3G though - the 3G networks are all being turned off shortly too.

EE may be mid January 2023, and Vodafone later in 2023 by area. Three is saying 2024, and O2 is saying “soon”.

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

... She'll be fine, because I'll rewire her extension network to the phone port of whatever router she'll be supplied with for PSTN switch off...

I hadn't realised it is possible to rewire in the extension wiring so old land line phones would work. I thought they needed a DC voltage to allow them to ring etc.

Are you aware of any guides on how to do this, please?

In reply to a post by jaydub:

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

... She'll be fine, because I'll rewire her extension network to the phone port of whatever router she'll be supplied with for PSTN switch off...

I hadn't realised it is possible to rewire in the extension wiring so old land line phones would work. I thought they needed a DC voltage to allow them to ring etc.

Are you aware of any guides on how to do this, please?

You might find this video interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_KGXMcJHk although he is connecting the bell wires which may not be needed?

My father-in-law has the older version and I need to ensure te local authority upgrade to the new Tunstall - and not others they have an agreement with - that one refers to 4G/3G/2G and I believe there may be 5G too on a newer variant. 4G is patchy where he is - there is a 4G mast about 80m away but 20m above teh house and he is in a not-spot.

On a recent visit he asked us to check the various smoke detectors - we were unaware that one is a Tunstall, and as I pressed the test button, the base auto dialled and a bellowing voice came on "Mr Xxxxxxxxxx, are you ok? Is there a fire ? ...." We reassured them it was a test and they were happy.

Looking again at the overall package he has with FTTC, a 35% saving could be made when call costs are included by moving to a 38 or 76 Mbps FTTP.

In reply to a post by jaydub:

I hadn't realised it is possible to rewire in the extension wiring so old land line phones would work. I thought they needed a DC voltage to allow them to ring etc.

The ATA (or phone port on the router) provides the the ringing voltage, the dialtone - everything.

Only a single pair needs to be connected to modern phones. The old "anti-tinkle" line is historic; I believe it was to stop bells ringing when someone was pulse-dialing.

In reply to a post by jaydub:

In reply to a post by broadbandjockey:

... She'll be fine, because I'll rewire her extension network to the phone port of whatever router she'll be supplied with for PSTN switch off...

I hadn't realised it is possible to rewire in the extension wiring so old land line phones would work. I thought they needed a DC voltage to allow them to ring etc.

Are you aware of any guides on how to do this, please?

Theres some stuff here on the A&A site on 'voice reinjection', the term coined to describe this:

https://support.aa.net.uk/VoIP_How_to:_Voice_reinjec...

[edit: the key thing is to ensure the incoming pair is completely and remains disconnected]

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Edited by Pheasant (Sat 24-Dec-22 23:07:00)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

[edit: the key thing is to ensure the incoming pair is completely and remains disconnected]

Otherwise, the phone will ring in the exchange, and the operator will keep picking it up

Merry Christmas!

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Otherwise, the phone will ring in the exchange, and the operator will keep picking it up

Merry Christmas!

ho ho ho

Dang you you got in before me! Ba humbug 😅 🎄🎄