In reply to a post by jchamier:

Only if you move home, or request a new line. If you have an existing service, the ‘stop sell’ area doesn’t turn you off.. That’s the point.

As per Openreach site a copper product stop sell means:
* you won’t be able to buy our old copper products if Full Fibre is available at your premises, this includes Gfast, Superfast Fibre and Standard Broadband.

* applies to anyone who's signing up to a new contract, whether you're switching, upgrading or re-grading.

Note the word upgrading or re-grading. This includes when you renew contracts or make changes to your contract/speed profile.

* Some communications providers may choose to impose this sooner, so you might see this reflected in their product offerings.

This means that once FTTP is available to you, your current provider may want to move you onto FTTP. Especially as Openreach have incentives to the provider for doing so e.g cheaper wholesale prices

Edited by cymru123 (Tue 27-Dec-22 09:00:58)

I have also been wondering what is the point of Adrian's spam, it's been going on for months, the same old stuff again and again.

@jchamier

In addition to my previous reply see page 4 of https://www.openreach.co.uk/cpportal/content/dam/cpp...

Stop sell is our process to encourage use of fibre products.

For Communications Providers
End customers won’t be able to buy old copper products if full fibre is available at their premises, this includes Superfast Fibre and Standard Broadband. This applies to end customers signing up to a new contract, whether they’re switching, upgrading or re-grading.


If a product is affected by stop sell, this won’t just mean no new supply, but other activities may also be impacted.

The OP has attracted so many replies that it must be of interest to some. Surely people don't bother to post in threads they have no interest in?

In reply to a post by dect:

Adrian, an honest question

What was the point of this thread?

It started off when I had a letter from Vodafone about me being able to get fibre broadband, a company I have never used for broadband and that I had it a few days after our road had fibre. It worked out okay, there is some good info posted by others,
Just wait now to see how many more flyers I get through the door once the Christmas and New year stuff is over. That is if Royal mail don't do any more strikes

In reply to a post by Realalemadrid:

I have also been wondering what is the point of Adrian's spam, it's been going on for months, the same old stuff again and again.

I suggest you look up the meaning of spam.

You should remember that Adrian has posted in another thread "I just don't like being pushed and the more I am pushed the more I will rebel and go a different way".

If he is true to that, the more people who complain about the totally irrelevant, space-grabbing and time-wasting content that he is posting the more he is going to put them in their place by posting further content from "The Secret Diaries of Adrian Mole Zyborg47".

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

It started off when I had a letter from Vodafone about me being able to get fibre broadband, a company I have never used for broadband and that I had it a few days after our road had fibre. It worked out okay, there is some good info posted by others,
Just wait now to see how many more flyers I get through the door once the Christmas and New year stuff is over. That is if Royal mail don't do any more strikes

The way I see it is that you've hopefully now been given information and how the transition to full fibre works, the stop sell process and the priority full fibre products have over copper based products (including fibre to the cabinet services) and as a separate piece the migration to All IP and Internet based voice services.

You may not agree or like the way the providers are wanting to move customers to their full fibre products and how the product restrictions of copper based products at present but you've at least started the conversation in your own head with input from others here which in turn will hopefully prepare you for future progression on the transition to full fibre.

In reply to a post by cymru123:

You may not agree or like the way the providers are wanting to move customers to their full fibre products

To be fair to Adrian, he wasn’t complying about a company that he is a customer of but a company that he has no dealings with, and no desire to have any dealings with.

In reply to a post by cymru123:

This means that once FTTP is available to you, your current provider may want to move you onto FTTP. Especially as Openreach have incentives to the provider for doing so e.g cheaper wholesale prices

But its not available to Adrian, and the whole thread is conjecture about what his current provider may or may not do, and what he may or may not do.

I gather from what you posted if you do absolutely nothing (e.g. let automatic price rises happen) and don’t choose to “recontract” or “upgrade” then its unclear if the provider will choose to cease/ terminate the service over FTTP. For most of us (with no sign of OR FTTP in town) this is likely a way off before we find out.

Edited by jchamier (Tue 27-Dec-22 14:26:28)