In reply to a post by dect:

This sounds like the best approach to sorting out the stranglers

Openreach Trial New FTTP Option for Copper Lines with Complex Faults

Sorry guys I did mean stragglers

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

It is a business after all

Spot on, lets hope people remember that.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

I think he was implying (jokingly) that there might be some extra "degradation" with the copper in those areas. A bit more water ingress into the joints than normal; intermittent faults which mysteriously appear and disappear; the neighbours who already have FTTP start using some very old TV sets; that sort of thing.

That is what I more or less said above.
(1) Openreach may call everything a complex repair, even if it is not just to get people onto Fibre
(2) they could, I am not saying they will, but they could make faults happen just to get people to change.


i doubt very much if many people will be using a old TV and I don't know why you think that would make a difference, i had a CRT TV when we had ADSl and it did not affect the broadband.

But i would not be surprised if all of a sudden I started having problems with my broadband, we will wait and see.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

It is a business after all

Spot on, lets hope people remember that.

Still don't mean that we have to do what they want,supermarkets have been trying to get me to use scan and shop and self scans and have their loyalty card, which I refuse to do. Granted i do use self scans if I only have a couple of items. My energy company have tried to push smart meters onto me, again I refuse, but to be fair to Octopus they have not pushed too hard, yet.

The same with Openreach my provider, I will change to Fibre when I ready, not when they want me to.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I will change to Fibre when I ready, not when they want me to.

Hopefully they will discontinue their copper services for those who have Openreach full fibre available and then leave it up to the customer to decide what they want to do.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

i doubt very much if many people will be using a old TV and I don't know why you think that would make a difference

Then you must have missed the story I was alluding to:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/09/18-mon...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54239180

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

i doubt very much if many people will be using a old TV and I don't know why you think that would make a difference

Then you must have missed the story I was alluding to:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/09/18-mon...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54239180

Was such a great story and just shows how electrical interference can effect the copper based network.

In reply to a post by dect:

Hopefully they will discontinue their copper services for those who have Openreach full fibre available and then leave it up to the customer to decide what they want to do.

I doubt that will happen for a while and if they do, it may send people to another network if there is one available, i have read that openreach is mindful that it may happen.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Then you must have missed the story I was alluding to:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/09/18-mon...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54239180

Good grief, I am surprised it cause that much of a problem, the TV must have had a fault, as I said i have an old CRT set and it never caused a problem, with ADSl, I don't know if it will with VDSL as the TV was taken out of service a long time ago, to be honest it should be dumped, it is up here in the way along with my old Plasma.
Christmas Tree Lights, yes, we had problems a few years ago with a neighbour across the road when ever they switch their lights on outside the house a few people lost sync , it took a few days before the problem was sourced. My service did not lose sync, but it did slow down.

They have different lights now as there have been no problems for the last 3 years, still amazes me that people have the outside of their houses lit up with these lights considering the price of electric theses day

The topic is headed "so it starts". When is it going to finish?