In reply to a post by Pheasant:

20 years…who were you before FibreBubble?

This one for a start Linky

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

No one is going to give me a reason because there is no reason, it is no good saying I need to be educated and stop at that. Educate me.

Many years ago our house got hit by lightening. Despite not hitting the phone line it travelled down it and fried every phone, the router and the network adapter of every device connected to it. I've been counting the days until I could get fibre after that, want as few ways into the house for lightening as possible.

You also mentioned you could always leave Steam downloading overnight, except that means leaving your PC on consuming electricity for hours and you can't play that game until its done. Is your time not valuable?

Edited by alexatkin (Sun 15-Jan-23 10:53:59)

Please don't argue with him.

He doesn't *want* fibre, which you cannot deny, because that's a statement of fact about him (not about technology). Whatever reasons he gives for not wanting it are also statements about him.

Unfortunately, he also thinks that this forum is also about him, not about technology.

EDIT: to be fair to zyborg47, he doesn't come here telling other people that *they* shouldn't get FTTP or that *they* shouldn't get a smart meter or whatever. However, when someone else comes along who *does* want FTTP, he keeps repeating why *he* doesn't want FTTP, which is simply not relevant.

Edited by candlerb (Sun 15-Jan-23 10:47:47)

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

But saying that, it would not shock me if at some point providers don't use some sort of tactics to get people to change over.

But as you pointed out, they don't need to be sneaky about it.

They can outright say "we need to upgrade you to fibre" and/or increase the price of copper service. They're not even in the wrong to do that given it will cost more to maintain a copper service and the retiring of the copper network is inevitable, though probably not happening for quite some time still (at least on a national scale).

Been there and have the shirt too unfortunately. Lead in fibre won’t protect you at all I’m afraid if it’s an equipotential fault. Nearby strike.

In reply to a post by alexatkin:

But as you pointed out, they don't need to be sneaky about it.

They can outright say "we need to upgrade you to fibre" and/or increase the price of copper service. They're not even in the wrong to do that given it will cost more to maintain a copper service and the retiring of the copper network is inevitable, though probably not happening for quite some time still (at least on a national scale).

In reply to your post about lightening, the chance of lightning hitting phone cables is a chance in a million, I live on a large hill and my TV aerial is pretty high, or it used to be before it was lowered to make space for the wireless broadband unit, never been hit in the 20 years I have been here. Could it happen? maybe.

The aerial is disconnected, but the end of it is still on the window sill inside.

Ok, as for the fibre thing, at some point yes we will be forced/pushed/bribed to go to it and at that time I may already be using it, but at this moment in time I feel I don't need to change to fibre.
This is how I see it
I have 36Mb/s on FTTC, working fine, for an ok price, People say I can go for FTTP and keep the speed I am on and I know this, but my view is, why go through the hassle of having fibre installed just to keep to the same speed? If I am going to go through that rigmarole, then I may as well go for something faster and get something out of it. Then it comes back to me spending more for something I don't need.

Can you see what I am getting at?

At some point I may change or be made to change, but not yet,

18 pages of drivel posted by a troll who's being doing this for years, both here and other forums ruining thread after thread after thread with his inane diatribes.

Ludicrous that he's allowed to get away with it for so long.

In reply to a post by neo_wales:

18 pages of drivel posted by a troll who's being doing this for years, both here and other forums ruining thread after thread after thread with his inane diatribes.

Ludicrous that he's allowed to get away with it for so long.

Again, if you don't like it don't read it, I had you hidden as I got fed up with you're my son has a video card that cost more than your computer rubbish,
I thought i would check to see what you had posted
don't like it then get lost, simple as that

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This is a time when a moderator on this forum would be nice, to calm everyone down but may be a wish to far.

Still waiting for a response to this post in another topic. I only fear it might be a bit too subtle for the message to have any impact.