In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Again, if you don't like it don't read it

If you drop litter in the street it has an adverse impact on the environment for everyone else. Do you advocate that people should just ignore the litter and walk on by? That is what you are advocating in regard to litter on the Forum.

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In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Again, if you don't like it don't read it

If you drop litter in the street it has an adverse impact on the environment for everyone else. Do you advocate that people should just ignore the litter and walk on by? That is what you are advocating in regard to litter on the Forum.

I don't drop litter in the street, not that anyone would notice if I did. But I get your meaning, but this is in a thread I started.

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This is a time when a moderator on this forum would be nice, to calm everyone down but may be a wish to far.

I know I need to calm down, but I get irritated and some people are so stupid and brainwashed. We only had to look at the last few years to see that.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

some people are so stupid and brainwashed.

This doesn't help, from looking at the posts here there appears to be many who would claim this describes your good self.

In reply to a post by dect:

This doesn't help, from looking at the posts here there appears to be many who would claim this describes your good self.

No doubt, but I do my own thing, I don't follow other people or get pushed into things unless I see it has an advantage for me or sometimes other people, depending on what it is.

Take this fibre stuff for a start, People I know and chat to say to me about getting fibre and they think I am against FTTP, which i am not against it at all. Go into a supermarket and get a hand set almost pushed into your hand or an application form for a loyalty card. Granted, that have calmed down a bit since the pandemic have ceased to be a pandemic. but then they have convinced people now that this is the future, and we will have no checkouts soon. The reason we will have no checkouts is that allowed this to happen.

This is what I am on about people following each other and not thinking about things until it is too late.

A cashless society, people are again are being pushed to using contactless cards, in the pandemic we were told it was a safer cleaner way of shopping, and then they push a handset that have been used by every Tom Dick and Harry in your hands or try to. People scared of touching stuff and want everything cleaned because the government put it in their head, and yet they still touched stuff on the shelves of supermarkets that have been touched by other people.

People listen to propaganda and that is the problem and that is why this world is in the mess it is in, only have to look at Russia and see what propaganda the Russians are believing.

People have their own mid, and they need to use them instead of following others.

You say you don't care what other people do and yet then say anyone that doesn't do it your way has been brainwashed by propaganda and are just following everyone else. That is a very rude and narrow view on life. I use self scan on my mobile phone because it is way more convenient for me and means I can get through the shopping much more quickly - especially as I don't want to fill a trolley, then put it all on a conveyor to then have to bag it all up; with the app I can bag it all as I go and save a lot of time that is of value to me.

I have FTTP because it is better than my old FTTC and suits my use better.

I was careful about touching things during the height of the pandemic - it cost me little but if it reduces the risks for me and others then I will do it but it doesn't mean I was brainwashed; it was my choice based on my analysis of the risk.

I use contactless because again it is quicker, more convenient and means I don't have to keep going to cashpoints. Using the credit card for this also gives me insurance on larger purchases.

But, according to you all of this is because I am brainwashed by propaganda. You saying your thoughts is fine but then following it by saying anyone that thinks different is brainwashed is where you step well over the line.

In reply to a post by ian72:

You say you don't care what other people do and yet then say anyone that doesn't do it your way has been brainwashed by propaganda and are just following everyone else. That is a very rude and narrow view on life.

You are wrong, I don't think people who don't do it my way have been brainwashed by propaganda. Maybe brainwashed is a bit strong, but people have certainly been harassed or pushed to do things.

I use self scan on my mobile phone because it is way more convenient for me and means I can get through the shopping much more quickly - especially as I don't want to fill a trolley, then put it all on a conveyor to then have to bag it all up; with the app I can bag it all as I go and save a lot of time that is of value to me.

You may have done that by choice, but I have seen and heard how people have been pushed, someone told me that they have been told to force people to use it. You must agree that is wrong, people should have a choice not be harassed when they do their shopping.

Supermarkets are taking normal checkouts to push people to use selfscan and scan and shop because they don't have to pay for someone to sit on a checkout.

One of the reasons why I do a lot of my shopping at Aldis or Lidls, they don't have selfscans

I have FTTP because it is better than my old FTTC and suits my use better.

Which is fine, I know a few people that have FTTP, but some I chat to online feels as if they are being pushed to it, even some providers phoning them up, like BT, saying get faster FTTP, much faster and more expensive to the consumer, no wonder they want people to update
Feels like what happened with smart meters and energy companies forcing them onto people.

At the moment I have not had that, but then we only just had FTTP in the city, but give it time. Already we are bombarded with letters and leaflets from ZZoomm.

I was careful about touching things during the height of the pandemic - it cost me little but if it reduces the risks for me and others then I will do it but it doesn't mean I was brainwashed; it was my choice based on my analysis of the risk.

How? You have to pick up stuff in the shop, and you would not want to know how many people touched it before you, and that don't include other customers who pick it up and put it back. The only way is with gloves

I use contactless because again it is quicker, more convenient and means I don't have to keep going to cashpoints. Using the credit card for this also gives me insurance on larger purchases.

They used the pandemic to push contactless, use contactless, save touching filthy cash or those filthy keypads at the same time you put your groceries that have been touch by lots of people in your bag.

i use contactless when it suits me, I don't have a contactless card, refused to have one and when Halifax did send one i drilled a hole it to kill the contactless part, but fair play to Halifax they did send me a normal card when asked, but a lot of banks don't

I use contactless with the phone, but only if I don't have cash on me and boy you want to see the look I am given sometimes because I pay by cash, how dare I pay by cash

i have a credit card, not that I use it that often, I only got it to see if I could get one, that is contactless, but it doesn't go out of the house, the only time it did was when I had to cancel my debit card and I needed to buy some food.

But, according to you all of this is because I am brainwashed by propaganda. You saying your thoughts is fine but then following it by saying anyone that thinks different is brainwashed is where you step well over the line.

I never said you were, you may be, I don't know, i said some people

Any chance that we all agree to stop adding to this now utterly pointless thread?

Please.

"I have 36Mb/s on FTTC, working fine, for an ok price, People say I can go for FTTP and keep the speed I am on and I know this, but my view is, why go through the hassle of having fibre installed just to keep to the same speed? If I am going to go through that rigmarole, then I may as well go for something faster and get something out of it. Then it comes back to me spending more for something I don't need."


Adrian, this is the problem. You have already stated this about 100 times. You DO NOT need to keep repeating it.

"One of the reasons why I do a lot of my shopping at Aldis or Lidls, they don't have selfscans"

And that is why I don't shop at these places unless the queues are short. I only buy the middle isle items and don't want to wait behind a couple of people with trolleys if I've only got a couple of items. A way to checkout quickly would be advantageous to many.