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In reply to a post by burble:

There are 6 houses connected to our pole, at least 3 of us have FTTP mine is Copper and FTTP, there are 6 cables going to pole.

There are a fair few houses in this street and not many poles to be honest,

My point was, if the houses get FTTP or Hybrid service (like mine) from OR there will be no more cables

I previously worked for AT&T where my boss liked to boast that AT&T was the largest copper mine in the world. This was based on the volume of copper recovered as legacy infrastructure was switched to fibre.

I have nearly a km of redundant 10 pair armoured cable DIG if they want to arrange for it to be recovered but they will need to leave the ground as they found it

But, people don’t live at the same address forever do they ?

If the copper is left in situ, then providing service is quick and easy when needed.

Dumb really having all these FTTP suppliers rolling out all the way to the properties.
One fibre back to a central node where it can be patched to the various suppliers who have a presence at this common node.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

One fibre back to a central node where it can be patched to the various suppliers who have a presence at this common node.

Don't talk sense!

You will upset all those politician that always"know best" ...

In reply to a post by burble:

My point was, if the houses get FTTP or Hybrid service (like mine) from OR there will be no more cables

Er? There will still be cables, just with fibre in them. The ones that are with a altnet is a different thing

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

But, people don’t live at the same address forever do they ?

If the copper is left in situ, then providing service is quick and easy when needed.

Dumb really having all these FTTP suppliers rolling out all the way to the properties.
One fibre back to a central node where it can be patched to the various suppliers who have a presence at this common node.

+1 point to point dark fibre to the node would’ve be a lot better. Could still be done on future on Openreach. The most difficult and expensive leg (premises to splitter is effectively a point to point architecture) - the exchange to splitter leg would need a few more high density ribbon fibre spines.

That's how the majority of Switzerland has been done IIRC

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

But, people don’t live at the same address forever do they ?

If the copper is left in situ, then providing service is quick and easy when needed.

But since copper is going, who in their right mind would go to copper if fibre is already installed? Unless they are going for a provider that don't do fibre yet,
I presume people who have fibre installed have not planned to move for a couple of years at least, I know things can happen, and I know that you can take your contract with you depending on where you go. But normally people who have fibre are not planning on moving any time soon.

Oh yeah, before you say something about me staying on FTTC, if fibre was already installed I would use it, not against fibre, just don't see the point in changing to something that is not going to make a difference to me.

Dumb really having all these FTTP suppliers rolling out all the way to the properties.
One fibre back to a central node where it can be patched to the various suppliers who have a presence at this common node.

But different fibre suppliers use different technology, I am not a fibre or broadband expert, but if they have done what you say to do would they not be able to use their own technology?

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

I presume people who have fibre installed have not planned to move for a couple of years at least, I know things can happen, and I know that you can take your contract with you depending on where you go. But normally people who have fibre are not planning on moving any time soon.

Evidence please.

Full Fibre installations normally only take a few hours at the customers premises so why would someone stay on a slow 36Mbps broadband if they was planning on moving somewhere in the near future.