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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Feb-23 11:50:37
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Hampshire council is letting people use cable protectors, but other councils are refusing, e.g. York.
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/23289472.york-falli...

Interesting 🤔 thank you

Standard User kitcat
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 09-Feb-23 12:42:00
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It will only add money against homes without FTTP, when you have huge swathes of Cardiff with FTTP available if you want a new home in an area of Cardiff there is no added value as the area either has FTTP ( North Cardiff) or does not ( Llanrummney). Conversely if your home is one of the few that does not have FTTP in an area where 95% do it will have a lower value the the average.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 09-Feb-23 14:17:22
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An 80 mile/day commute is well into charging every other day territory for the average EV, the other option is to fit two chargers and current limit them so they might only draw 20A each but will still charge at a rate high enough to replenish any usage from the previous day. A 40 mile commute seems a bit of an outlier though so the chances of two of them being in one household is even rarer.


What if you have three cars, do you fit three chargers?
I don't think the government have given this electric car thing any thought. Chatting to a bloke down the road that has a Tesla on Sunday when I was going to the pub, and he is having problems with it not liking the cold, sounds like the old FORDS.
Hybrid is the best way to go.
I'm not convinced having fibre increases the value of a property any more than statistical noise, but I am sure that not having good internet options severely limits who would be interested in buying the property in the first place, which has the effect of lowering the value so the end result (better connected houses being worth more) is the same. I know I wouldn't buy a house that only had FTTC, things seem so uncertain at the moment as well that I wouldn't trust any providers plans for FTTP either, I'd want to see it built.


I agree that maybe not having good broadband will put some people off, but if i had the money to buy a nice house by the sea, it would not bother me if it did not have great broadband as long as it was good enough to do what I do.

I went over to a house this morning to pick up some hard drives from my mate's computers, sadly he passed away a couple of years ago, anyway, his wife still lives there and their son is there now, they have had Zzoomm installed, the first time I have seen a Zzoomm installation, I am surprised how far the took the fibre into the house, I expect them to take it into the living room, but they took it into the dining room, tacked the fibre around the walls, it is a fair distance, they have done a pretty good job to be honest. It comes from underground, so they fed it via the cellar.
The router is massive and really heavy, I was shocked at the size and weight of it.
They went for the 400Mb/s package.
My mate would have loved that if he was still here, the amount of times he used to complain about how bad his broadband was.

Adrian

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 09-Feb-23 16:29:50
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I have said this before and I will say it again, this you need faster broadband malarkey is a sales pitch
With the upmost respect Adrian you can keep repeating it but it doesn't make it true, its simply your opinion supported by maybe the recent Openreach guy in your street or the guy down the road or pub or work. As has been already said to the member from Cuckoo Oak, its foolish to claim to know what other's broadband requirements are.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Feb-23 17:01:39
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the member from Cuckoo Oak,

Many a true word …….

Standard User burble
(experienced) Thu 09-Feb-23 19:32:11
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Hampshire council is letting people use cable protectors, but other councils are refusing, e.g. York.
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/23289472.york-falli...

Interesting 🤔 thank you


A local council around here was trialling some sort of cable ducting for EV charging, not heard how it's going.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 09-Feb-23 19:36:59
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With the upmost respect Adrian you can keep repeating it but it doesn't make it true, its simply your opinion supported by maybe the recent Openreach guy in your street or the guy down the road or pub or work. As has been already said to the member from Cuckoo Oak, its foolish to claim to know what other's broadband requirements are.


It is a sale pitch, I am not saying that some people don't require faster broadband, but the first thing that ois pushed about fibre is speed, The letters I get from Zzoomm, after the stuff about the offer, and some stuff saying I may think my current broadband is ok, the fist thing is about speed, and it seems to be the thing for all adverts about FTTP. Make people think they need the extra speed, even if they don't.
i don't claim to know what other's broadband requirements are, well not everyone anyway. I do think some do go higher than they really need, My brother/sister-in-law, my other half, and she realises that now and the household I went to this morning, but it is up to them at the end of the day.
What gets me is people who think they know what my broadband requirements are

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Feb-23 21:26:49
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As has been already said to the member from Cuckoo Oak, its foolish to claim to know what other's broadband requirements are.

My job during the pandemic lockdowns would have been MUCH harder with my old FTTC degraded upload (assumed due to crosstalk at 550m from cabinet).

Despite VM's failings (disconnections in summer due to worn out street cabinet) the faster speed meant I could work.

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Feb-23 21:27:57
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It is a sale pitch, I am not saying that some people don't require faster broadband, but the first thing that ois pushed about fibre is speed.

My local alt-net (not Zzzoooomm) are cheaper than a Plusnet 40/10 service. They only offer symmetric 1Gbps, and are now in partnership with CityFibre.

I will be signing up when they appear in my road, they're about 6 streets away and going the wrong way.... they're the only alternative to VM... unless I go 4G with EE, (around 200 Mbps download, 50 upload) as the other mobile networks are slow (30 Mbps on Three, 20 Mbps on Vodafone, 5 Mbps on O2).

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 09-Feb-23 21:47:40
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My local alt-net (not Zzzoooomm) are cheaper than a Plusnet 40/10 service. I will be signing up when they appear in my road, they're about 6 streets away and going the wrong way frown


Certainly not Zzoomm as they are not cheaper, well with the six month free offer they work out 17p a month more than what I am paying now over the two years, so not too bad I suppose., but normal price they are certainly more expensive than what I am paying now by £8,42 a month.

You say they are going to the wrong way, but I expect they will get to you at some point soon.

Not sure if I have said this before, but when I first heard Zzoomm was coming here, I got excited, I don't excited very often. Anyway, I thought great, fibre just what we need and even asked one of the Zzoomm bloke how long it will be before they get up to me, he said within 12 months, that never happened, I was even going to put off renewing my contract with Plusnet for a couple of months or so, in fact I did, just to see if ZZoomm would come here, but they did not. I am glad I did not wait longer, as it turned out I would have waited for another 11 months or so.
So yes i was all ready to get Zzoomm when it came.

So what changed? The economy, the way prices are rising, me realising that I can do all I want to do on what I have got, seeing the hassle some people are having with the service and also installation. Then having thoughts on do I really want to be tied into a service for 2 years?

i must admit seeing the service in place today at a house, made me think, certainly with where they put the ONT and that maybe they can put it where I want it to go. Openreach just stick the ONT as close to the outside wall as they can. The 24 month contract is a bug bear to be honest

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