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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 09-Feb-23 21:51:48
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Certainly not Zzoomm as they are not cheaper, well with the six month free offer they work out 17p a month more than what I am paying now over the two years, so not too bad I suppose., but normal price they are certainly more expensive than what I am paying now by £8,42 a month.
That's very low. Most people are paying between £25 and £29 a month in contract for FTTC with PN including phone.

My local altnet is saying £25 for 18 months, then £29. Others nearby (e.g. Hey! Broadband) are only doing 500 Mbps for that sort of price. Better than my VM 250 Mbps for £55....

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Fri 10-Feb-23 07:57:01
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That's very low. Most people are paying between £25 and £29 a month in contract for FTTC with PN including phone.

My local altnet is saying £25 for 18 months, then £29. Others nearby (e.g. Hey! Broadband) are only doing 500 Mbps for that sort of price. Better than my VM 250 Mbps for £55....


£24.58 I am paying for a 36Mb/s connection from Plusnet

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Standard User TAZZ69
(regular) Fri 10-Feb-23 16:35:34
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just in the process of getting an EV charging point fitted …
good move, one of the downsides of living in a flat. However I wonder how multi-car homes will charge 2/3 or 4 cars overnight from one socket… for those that do the 80+ miles/day commute… frown

Or like me who lives close to a junction so can't get a drive so no point having a charging point or electric car as I can't get close to the house without parking on the pavement. Guess my house will devalue in a few years

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 10-Feb-23 16:45:40
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Or like me who lives close to a junction so can't get a drive so no point having a charging point or electric car as I can't get close to the house without parking on the pavement. Guess my house will devalue in a few years
I take comfort in the BBC report that 54% of housing in the UK doesn't have a way to charge overnight, primarily issues such as yours, terraced housing with on street parking but where you park randomly each night, as happens two streets from me. With hydrogen looking less and less likely (due to the energy required to create), the Governments of the world may be looking for other solutions... smile Plenty of smaller garages will be keeping petrol engines going for a long time yet!

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Standard User jpm
(experienced) Fri 10-Feb-23 16:59:08
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I don't really buy into some of the defeatism on this issue, or on any issue that isn't anywhere near to impossible but just requires a civil engineering effort. The UK moved from town gas to natural gas in less than a decade in the 1960s. The idea that charging EVs with no off-street parking is an insurmountable problem is a bizarre way of thinking - you could solve the issue with allocated parking spaces and buried cables from people's houses to charge points on small pillars, there, fixed. Or you install charge points but link the billing back to people's domestic supplier so there's no penalty for not having off-street parking, maybe charging a small fee per month to maintain the infrastructure.

I appreciate it's difficult but lots of things are difficult, and various people in the positions of making decisions standing around calling it a tough problem to solve doesn't get anything moving in the direction of a fix.
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 10-Feb-23 17:03:20
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I appreciate it's difficult but lots of things are difficult, and various people in the positions of making decisions standing around calling it a tough problem to solve doesn't get anything moving in the direction of a fix.
Utterly and fully agree. How do we get people ... (council, private landlords, public/housing assocation landlords) to even consider the topic as being important? It is key we start the job.

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Standard User TAZZ69
(regular) Fri 10-Feb-23 17:08:59
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Currently have a petrol hybrid, would go for a plug in hybrid for my next car. Live close to a supermarket which has charging points, so the best of both worlds. Think the governments plans will not happen given the energy price at the moment unless they get more creative with renewable energy.
Almost choked on my breakfast when Boris spoke about energy security after they dithered about giving the green light to nuclear a while back, if they had a crystal ball they would have jumped at it straight away. Still given the plans for climate change and the cost over energy they really need to get the finger out.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 10-Feb-23 17:25:29
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Still given the plans for climate change and the cost over energy they really need to get the finger out.
Yes, we need a lot more zero carbon enegry security. This is off-topic for this forum, but lots more at https://tickzero.com/

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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Sat 11-Feb-23 22:23:28
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Still given the plans for climate change and the cost over energy they really need to get the finger out.
Yes, we need a lot more zero carbon enegry security. This is off-topic for this forum, but lots more at https://tickzero.com/


I don't drive, I cycle using an Electric bike or walk, Apart from Thursday when I got a taxi to bring a load of hard drives home I have not even used public transport since the pandemic started. i get in a car to go for coffee and shopping on Wednesdays and the other half pick me up in her Landrover when it is working smile. She does want a smaller car for normal use, nothing to do with climate change, but a Landrover uses a fair bit of fuel and no, she will not be getting an electric car.,

Anyway, I went into town today and I saw a Zzoomm stall in the middle of our High town and went to speak to the bloke., They are supplying a new router with new installs, still the same make, just an updated model, so it may solve some of the issues people are having. The six-month free offer ends on Tuesday, but he said if I phoned him before then I can have it installed in June when my contract ends and still have the six months free, works out around £24 a month spread out the 24 months. He gave me his card.

I still have issues about the reliability, the 24-month contract, the hassle of having fibre installed and I don't really need 150Mb/s.

He says he doesn't know if they will repeat the offer again, but I think they will to get customers.

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Standard User GonePostal
(experienced) Sat 11-Feb-23 23:39:33
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Adrian

I posted this on 15th. Jan. and never got an answer. Can you help, please?

Adrian

Your surname isn't Mole, is it?

I only ask because in Adrian Mole - The Wilderness Years, Adrian wrote:

“I have decided to keep a full journal, in the hope that my life will perhaps seem more interesting when it is written down.”
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