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Standard User ronald23
(newbie) Sat 18-Feb-23 10:55:07
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FTTH and fiber optic cable concern


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Hello!

I just switched to an FTTH provider and I have a usual question about the fiber optic cables.

After the engineers installed the wall socket on the internal side of an external wall, I had to run 10 meters of fiber optic cable through an existing corrugated cable duct, in order to install the model in the designated location.

Due to the SC/APC connector, the cable got stuck and I had to pull it very hard to unstuck it (not very proud about it, but it was stuck middle way and at that point, I was aiming to remove it and use a new cable).

I was pretty sure the cable was compromised (no visual damage), but after testing the installation I get the same download/upload speeds (around 920-940 Mbps).

I might be overzealous here, but the one thing that leaves me dubious is that the ping (measured from the router) is higher by a very small fraction: before passing the wire I got 1.08ms on my second test, while today it is on average 1.70ms.

I appreciate the difference is insignificant and there are external factors, but given the problematic installation, I am concerned that the cable might have some damage.

What would be a sign of a compromised cable?
Is there any way to test the cables? Any tool I can buy?

I'd rather not run a new cable (if there is no evidence that this one is broken), as it was a traumatizing experience!

Edited by ronald23 (Sat 18-Feb-23 10:55:49)

Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 18-Feb-23 12:18:35
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Ping times vary anyway and that's not necessarily your own SC/APC extension cable at fault (presumably that's what you installed - rather than what was installed by the provider).

As long as the PON light on the ONT is solid, then you are good to go really. If there was a break or over-bend in the fibre it would simply lose too much light and not work.

You can test them with a light source and power meter (or an OTDR !) but in reality one would simply replace it for a new one as they are only a couple of quid.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 18-Feb-23 13:00:57
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Spend your money on a cable pulling course.

The only times you would snag on corrugated conduit is with very tight bends and a rigid cable or if pulling with the front tip of the cable offset.


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Sat 18-Feb-23 14:28:31
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Ideally one does not pull a connectorised fibre cable through any sort of conduit 😅 or indeed if the fibre cable is single-ended (like say an Openreach inside/out cable from the CSP) then pull the raw end and not the end with the connector.

They’re simply not designed for this.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 18-Feb-23 14:36:38
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And hence my first comment!


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Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Sat 18-Feb-23 15:01:21
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Maybe you should have run "10 metres of fibre ". wink

Was Eclipse Home Option 1, VM 2Mb & O2 Standard
Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk, upgraded to fibre 40/10
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(deleted) Sat 18-Feb-23 15:03:05
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Totally agree with your original comment, if the connector is snagging then its either got bends that are to tight or there is some form of user mis-op.
Standard User GreenLantern22
(newbie) Sun 19-Feb-23 08:56:39
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A faulty cable or connector will result in dropped packets and/or dropped connections. So if you want to be sure you need to monitor the interfaces at either side of the cable. Most OSes allow monitoring of network interfaces to show dropped packets, retry packets, retranmissions, etc. Another option is to run ping for 24hs with a large packet size (ie ping -s 4096 [ip]) and then look at the packet loss. However the latency differences you have are expected, specially with consumer grade hardware.
Standard User ronald23
(newbie) Sun 19-Feb-23 21:17:37
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In reply to a post by GreenLantern22:
A faulty cable or connector will result in dropped packets and/or dropped connections. So if you want to be sure you need to monitor the interfaces at either side of the cable. Most OSes allow monitoring of network interfaces to show dropped packets, retry packets, retranmissions, etc. Another option is to run ping for 24hs with a large packet size (ie ping -s 4096 [ip]) and then look at the packet loss. However the latency differences you have are expected, specially with consumer grade hardware.


Thanks - this is very helpful.

I haven't noticed any packet loss or increased jitter, but I haven't measured it on an extended window as you recommend. Will do.
Standard User ronald23
(newbie) Sun 19-Feb-23 21:19:33
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There is no sign of compromised cable, besides my concern.

Again - the only reason for not changing the cable is that it is a very tricky setup and I am not keen to redo it again.
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