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Standard User amiga_dude
(member) Fri 10-Mar-23 10:03:57
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Another thing that could happened is wayleave was in place even before the residence property was developed. For example, I could of been farm that got built upon. When it was a farm BT (GPO) got wayleave.
Standard User Fido
(experienced) Fri 10-Mar-23 16:28:10
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I checked the main deeds and the boundary shows the area that the duct is in as being within our boundary plan.

It is possible that it could be a service strip; this is not shown or recorded in the deeds but some neighbours consider that the 3 foot at the end of their gardens is a service strip. - The house is 20 years old.

Openreach have always behaved properly with regard to access to the duct at the end of the garden and we never minded and when Openreach needed access as they always asked us.

Also, when Openreach needed to dig our garden to repair a partial blockage so to allow the neighbours down the road the ability to get FTTP from Openreach we Sign a Permission to Dig Form with some limitations. - No big deal and Openreach cleared the mess they created and they made good.

These zzoomm contractors were not of the same calibre.

We now know how the system works with regard to cable companies in the UK. - Some companies have obtained UK Government/Regulalation Permission to install their own networks and it now seems to be a bit like the Wild West.

If we did not already have FTTP we may have considered this multiple cable system, which could potentially end up with poles and ducts all over the place could be the way forward but a smarter Government would have treated broadband cabling exactly the same as electric cabling to homes etc.

In Cambridgeshire new cables were installed.

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/cit...
Standard User simon194
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-Mar-23 11:42:49
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In reply to a post by Fido:
I checked the main deeds and the boundary shows the area that the duct is in as being within our boundary plan.

It is possible that it could be a service strip; this is not shown or recorded in the deeds but some neighbours consider that the 3 foot at the end of their gardens is a service strip. - The house is 20 years old.

I'm in a 6 year-old "new-build" and there is a service strip at the end of the allocated parking spaces. On the plans this not shown either but I only found out because the water meters for most houses had been put in the middle of the parking spaces and had to be moved. The water company had to get permission from all the affected householders to dig up the parking spaces to do the work.


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Standard User Fido
(experienced) Mon 13-Mar-23 19:19:09
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In reply to a post by simon194:
In reply to a post by Fido:
I checked the main deeds and the boundary shows the area that the duct is in as being within our boundary plan.

It is possible that it could be a service strip; this is not shown or recorded in the deeds but some neighbours consider that the 3 foot at the end of their gardens is a service strip. - The house is 20 years old.

I'm in a 6 year-old "new-build" and there is a service strip at the end of the allocated parking spaces. On the plans this not shown either but I only found out because the water meters for most houses had been put in the middle of the parking spaces and had to be moved. The water company had to get permission from all the affected householders to dig up the parking spaces to do the work.


These type of infrastructure changes can be a great deal of hassle for anyone involved but at least they asked the householder's permission and for water pipes it should be a one-off.

Water Pipes, Gas Pipes and Electric Cables are usually part of a type of National Grid to avoid a situation in which every Tom, Dick and Zzoomm was digging up the roads and pavements for this sort of infrastructure but the same cannot be said for broadband cables.

A Smarter Government would have created an up to date and future proof Government Owned Grid of Fibre Cables to the exchanges and would then have allowed the various companies to connect to these individual Fibre Connections in the Exchanges to enable competition but that is not what we have.

Under this system; we could all end up with multiple road works, dug up pavements and worst of all brand new poles were no poles ever existed based upon a small notification note, (that no-one noticed), on a lamp post to enable permitted development or a friendly regulator/governments nod and a wink.

Is this what we want ?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 13-Mar-23 22:29:44
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In reply to a post by simon194:
I'm in a 6 year-old "new-build" and there is a service strip at the end of the allocated parking spaces. On the plans this not shown either but I only found out because the water meters for most houses had been put in the middle of the parking spaces and had to be moved. The water company had to get permission from all the affected householders to dig up the parking spaces to do the work.
The service strip is sounding more and more likely I suspect, if thats the case then anyone authorised by Openreach are within their rights to access the joint box whenever they want and other providers may choice to pull their fibre cables in as well if they use PIA. Its always good to see properties getting choice rather than just a monopoly.
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