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Standard User The_Voyager
(experienced) Fri 14-Apr-23 13:18:35
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Re: Copper Line Removal?


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
Funny you should say that, sitting here with 2 large UPS Batteries protecting my computers and the connection equipment laugh

Bob
Community Fibre 1Gb symmetrical (FTTH) - Linksys Velop/EG8120L / VOIP via YayYay
Previous: via WRBRIX DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, FTTC to BT, PN Unl Extra Fibre
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Apr-23 13:25:43
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Re: Copper Line Removal?


[re: The_Voyager] [link to this post]
 
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Funny you should say that, sitting here with 2 large UPS Batteries protecting my computers and the connection equipment laugh
Nice one...! smile The problem is for many end users is that the internet connection requires powered equipment in the street, either from Openreach, or Virgin Media, or an alternate network provider (CityFibre etc). These items are not well protected from power failure.

Some random mobile masts have backup, but often only so they shut down cleanly, not to run them for any time.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 14-Apr-23 15:14:51
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Once I get rpnd to rewiring one ring final, I will have a 6.4kWh battery back up.... enough to run my network, WAPs, laptops &c for around 65-100 hours!


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Standard User Dassa
(newbie) Fri 14-Apr-23 15:26:39
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Re: Copper Line Removal?


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jchamier:
In reply to a post by The_Voyager:
Funny you should say that, sitting here with 2 large UPS Batteries protecting my computers and the connection equipment laugh
Nice one...! smile The problem is for many end users is that the internet connection requires powered equipment in the street, either from Openreach, or Virgin Media, or an alternate network provider (CityFibre etc). These items are not well protected from power failure.

Some random mobile masts have backup, but often only so they shut down cleanly, not to run them for any time.


That is why everyone is going to FTTP. Properly implemented FTTP doesn't require powered equipment at street level. Certainly neither Openreach's nor Cityfibre's FTTP service requires power anywhere other than the exchange and both organisations have generator provision in those locations.

Leaving aside players smaller than Cityfibre, it is really only Openreach FTTC and Virgin where power failures leave the service at risk of failure (at least for power failures of less than 24 hours).
Standard User The_Voyager
(experienced) Fri 14-Apr-23 15:57:02
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[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
Just a wee bit bigger than my pair of Standby (Offline) 0.85 kVA 520 W UPS laugh

Bob
Community Fibre 1Gb symmetrical (FTTH) - Linksys Velop/EG8120L / VOIP via YayYay
Previous: via WRBRIX DialUp to CIX, BT Home Highway to CIX, ADSL to Nildram, SKY & Be*Unlimited, FTTC to BT, PN Unl Extra Fibre
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 14-Apr-23 16:02:17
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I can use mine to power the whole house - lights, TV, network, PCs, chargers, freide/freezers and occasional kettle from aron 20:00 through to 07:00/08:00 teh following morning too. And costs me nothing to run.

I still do need to run one extra cable to link into one specific ring final though.


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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Apr-23 18:54:31
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That is why everyone is going to FTTP. Properly implemented FTTP doesn't require powered equipment at street level. Certainly neither Openreach's nor Cityfibre's FTTP service requires power anywhere other than the exchange and both organisations have generator provision in those locations.

Openreach are able to - but plenty of other alt-net networks (including Virgin Media, whom can provide Gigabit today) are already using active components in the street. Good to know CityFibre have thought ahead.

Leaving aside players smaller than Cityfibre, it is really only Openreach FTTC and Virgin where power failures leave the service at risk of failure (at least for power failures of less than 24 hours).

Yeah, and in this area its slow Openreach VDSL or Virgin Media, only 100,000 people or so wink

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Apr-23 19:51:59
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Only because the telephone exchanges had rooms full of batteries!

….. nah, hoofing great diesel generators innit

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Apr-23 19:56:43
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[re: Dassa] [link to this post]
 
That is why everyone is going to FTTP. Properly implemented FTTP doesn't require powered equipment at street level.


but it does require power to the ONT and router attached at the other end.

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 14-Apr-23 19:58:20
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Go for Bill , nowt to lose

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