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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 24-Dec-23 18:15:02
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Re: FTTP - disappointed with speed


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on the first link it says for 500mbit products use another speed tester...Did you do that.

Also the cable issues are a concern.....
Standard User RR_The_IT_Guy
(committed) Sun 24-Dec-23 19:45:22
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Re: FTTP - disappointed with speed


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In reply to a post by Taras:
on the first link it says for 500mbit products use another speed tester...Did you do that.

Also the cable issues are a concern.....


Agreed so are AV and VPN but that's another story.

I'm gig symmetric and some devices that are higher spec than others perform worse due to Virtual NICs and things like that.

E.g. Dual Xeon E5-2650 V2, with 164GB RAM and quad 10Gbps links performs worse (On Windows Server 2016) than a MAC / Linux.

The same applies on I9-10850K, 64Gb RAM 1x5Gbps link that barely gets anywhere near the expected 940 (due to TCP / ethernet limitations) The moment I disable VNICs all is faster same if I boot in Ubuntu or on Ubuntu Stick, speeds are rock solid.

Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20

Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current

Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Sun 24-Dec-23 19:46:34)

Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 24-Dec-23 23:37:44
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Re: FTTP - disappointed with speed


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Have to watch the cables. Some patch cables supplied with Zyzel modems are 4 wire 100mbit only. Caught me out once trying to patch PC to Asus router with 1gb ports.

Tim
talktalkbusiness.net & freenetname
Asus RT-AC68U and ZyXEL VMG1312-B10A Bridge on 80/20 Meg Fibre
Speed Test

Highest Sync: 79993/19661

BQM


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Standard User Ahmedg
(committed) Tue 26-Dec-23 11:41:03
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Re: FTTP - disappointed with speed


[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Taras:
on the first link it says for 500mbit products use another speed tester...Did you do that.

Also the cable issues are a concern.....


That link gives this info

"When testing 500Mb/1000Mb speeds via a computer based device the results are dependent on the capability of the device and the premises environment.
In addition to the standard guidance provided in the ‘Before You Start?’ section you need to ensure that the customers device meets the following minimum specification:

Processor should be above or equivalent to Intel® Core™ i5-4570S Processor (4 cores, 3.80 max Turbo frequency, 2.90GHz processor frequency, 6MB smart cache)
Ensure that at least 4 GB of RAM is free
1 GB NIC card is recommended
Ethernet cable should have the capability to transfer 1GB data
Operating System - Windows 8 and above
Minimum browsers supported - Google Chrome Version86, CX's Internet Explorer 11 as well as Microsoft Edge 2020 browsers version9 (2018 IE is not compatible)
Please ensure you are using the latest browser version for optimum results.
NB: To ensure accurate results please ensure you are testing via a wired connection with all other devices disabled, or switched off when running the test."
Standard User Ahmedg
(committed) Tue 26-Dec-23 11:52:13
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Re: FTTP - disappointed with speed


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Did a Tracert and these are the results.

C:\>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to gtm-uk.www.bbc.co.uk.pri.bbc.co.uk [212.58.235.129]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vodafone.broadband []
2 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 100.68.0.1
3 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 63.130.172.39
4 21 ms 12 ms 10 ms 195.66.224.88
5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 132.185.249.73
6 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 212.58.235.129

Trace complete.

2nd time

C:\>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to gtm-uk.www.bbc.co.uk.pri.bbc.co.uk [212.58.236.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms vodafone.broadband []
2 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 100.68.0.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 63.130.172.39
4 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 90.244.159.77
5 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 132.185.249.88
6 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms 212.58.236.1

The most peculair thing is my upload is spot on, just download is lot lower, There is no congestion whatsoever as I am the only one ont he pole and street, the pole is right outside my house.

As for the Town, we have just had FTTP roll out started and I would be surprised if more than dozen people on it even if that as most of the CBT done have any connections and town has had VM for a very long time.
Standard User andew
(member) Tue 26-Dec-23 12:04:44
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noticed the 2nd hop in the traceroute going via a CGNAT ip address

2 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 100.68.0.1

has vodafone started using CGNAT for their fibre services? Maybe worth going to https://www.whatismyip.com and see what address that returns then compare with the external addres your router has.
Standard User Ahmedg
(committed) Tue 26-Dec-23 13:08:49
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The addresses match.

Oh well, it is what it is, still better than the 52MB I was on.
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 26-Dec-23 13:40:22
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Lots of providers are using private addressing inside their network to conserve IPv4 usage.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 28-Dec-23 13:33:37
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if you have two pcs, try a lan gigabit test to rule out issues with your nic/pc/cable
Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(committed) Thu 28-Dec-23 18:10:47
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I see from your screenshots you've got Windows 10. Have you looked at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1miYJmJ_4&t=2s
https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-limit-reservable-b...

By default Windows 10 limits your bandwidth by 80%! There's a setting that needs to be changed every time on a new fresh Windows 10/11 installation.

There are 2 options. If you've got Pro version or higher go to Start-->Run-->gpedit.msc This opens the Group Policy Editor.
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Network > QoS Packet Scheduler. Press Enabled and in the Bandwidth limit type in 0 and hit apply and restart your PC.

Now your internet speed will not be restricted to the old 80%!

If you have only Home edition. Then you can manually add this through the registry editor by going to Start-->Run-->regedit. Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Psched
You may have to create a folder separately called Psched and create a DWORD 32-bit Value NonBestEffortLimit and enter 0

Reboot PC and see if your speeds have improved. Also don't forget to try and temporarily disable Windows Update and the Microsoft Store. https://www.wintips.org/how-to-turn-off-windows-10-u...

There's a setting to disable Automatic Windows update including adding http:\\neverupdatewindows10.com in the specify internet server. When Windows 10 scans it will not be stealing bandwidth in the process.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-...
Any Microsoft Store apps disable Background data as well so these don't steal your bandwidth in the background.

Stop most apps from running in the background

Select Start , then select Settings > Privacy > Background apps.

Under Background Apps, make sure Let apps run in the background is turned Off.

Also To turn off automatic app updates from the Microsoft Store, you need to follow these steps:

- Open the Microsoft Store application.

- Click on your Windows account avatar in the top right corner and select "Settings".

- Under "Application updates", toggle the "Off" option "Automatically update applications " to turn it off.

If after this there are still no improvements to your speeds then the problem is elsewhere and not Windows related.

Edited by BLaZiNgSPEED (Thu 28-Dec-23 18:17:44)

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