FTTP with BT Open Reach

So I have looked to get Fast Fiber installed in the flat that I am living. (block of 4 flat share of the freehold and one of the owner occupier)

Was initially contacted by Vodaphone if i wanted to Upgrade and city fibre and other provider then follow up to the external box installed and connected to the main cabinet and then a visit was completed to get it installed inside the flat.

However, these installation are taking place is to run cable from outside rather than using the existing plug from BT when the copper line come out inside the flat.

Having to get the cable routed through the flat to the same location as the existing BT plug will be a challenge with the risk that the cable going from inside to that plug could get broken.

(rational is that the outside box is located outside bedroom and none of us want router in the bedroom which is more than reasonable.

Trade man who came to instal suggested that maybe we should hold for BT open reach to do their installation as potentially they could use their existing plug to bring through fast fibre cable.

Is that something possible or not at all? or would BT Open reach installed Fast Fibre the same was as all the contracted trade man from Fibre company?

Once you have fibre, existing copper routes start to become pointless. the fibre cable can be put in any location (within reason) inside your flat as long as there is a power point nearby. The fibre box (ont) presents a rj45 interface which means you can take that cable anywhere you wish .

Also: if you are installing an altnet fibre connection (e.g. Cityfibre) then it will be a completely separate installation. They will never re-use any Openreach cable into the property, even if there was already Openreach FTTP - they're not allowed to touch it.

So you would end up with two FTTP connections and two ONTs, although you can power down the one you're not using.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Also: if you are installing an altnet fibre connection (e.g. Cityfibre) then it will be a completely separate installation. They will never re-use any Openreach cable into the property, even if there was already Openreach FTTP - they're not allowed to touch it.

So you would end up with two FTTP connections and two ONTs, although you can power down the one you're not using.

So Would it be best to wait for BT Open reach to install it as they expend, and then would any suppliers be able to use that Open reach FTTP Installation? or would they required to use the alternative provider installation?

Just mindful to keep it simple and clean for the full block of flat

In reply to a post by Taras:

Once you have fibre, existing copper routes start to become pointless. the fibre cable can be put in any location (within reason) inside your flat as long as there is a power point nearby. The fibre box (ont) presents a rj45 interface which means you can take that cable anywhere you wish .

I initially thought they could do within reason as Only want the box at the same place as where the current router is.

However, that means having a cable coming from the window bedroom, crossing the full bedroom with cable tucked away going via a wall, which they not happy to drill in case of damage they would be liable. So a pretty painful installation hence wondering if new cabling could be done via existing ducting to minimise the disruption.

It will be up to your ISP (e.g. Vodafone) as to which access network they use (Openreach, CityFibre, or someone else). If your home is in an area served by Openreach and CityFibre then I suspect it's inevitable that you'll end up with equipment from both networks at some point in the future.

They can within reason. you do you how long the route is?

with OR you can ask for an advanced install - which is chargable. some will know if this live now - it was only announced late last month/this month. That should accommodate your requests.

If you can your own conduit /trunking and leave two strings in it is likely that you won't have any issues with a new install. the same still applies to onts - or ont for those isps that use or and a new one for an altnet.

Edited by Taras (Wed 27-Dec-23 11:17:51)